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  #101  
Old August 17th 05, 03:09 AM
George Patterson
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Peter Duniho wrote:

Suffice
to say, there are some things that are VERY important to a successful
marriage, but sharing each other's personal interests 100% isn't one of
them.


Right. My wife knits. The furnace room is full of yarn and we have knitting
books and patterns scattered through most of the house. It's sure cheaper than
any of my hobbies, and it makes her a quiet and appreciative passenger in a car
or plane. I have no inclination to pick up a set of needles myself.

Being able to accept and appreciate each other's interests is what's important.
Toleration is no good, because you look down on things you have to tolerate.

George Patterson
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use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.
  #102  
Old August 17th 05, 03:12 AM
George Patterson
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Andrew Gideon wrote:

It's a small sample, true, but I'd not go so far as to say that "wives don't
like flying".


Dan said "most women." He's right.

George Patterson
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  #104  
Old August 17th 05, 04:00 AM
Jose
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You know Jay, I get the feeling that one day, maybe ten or twenty years
from now, you'll just hang it up and stop flying at all. Been there,
done that, whatever. The passion will have just... well... died, and
you won't understand why, nor will it make much sense to you to even ask
why, because you won't be actually =feeling= the passion any more.

You can't imagine it now. But you tout flying as the "be all and end
all for everyone" so strongly that I wonder what the future will
surprise you with. One thing I've learned in life is that things don't
turn out the way it looks like they are going to.

Jose
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Old August 17th 05, 05:03 AM
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I have only ever met one woman who flew when her husband/boyfriend
didn't. And she was having an affair with a guy with a Pitts.


See, it just goes to show you that you don't have to have a lot of money
to fly a Pitts.
All you need is something of value to trade for stick time. ;-))


God, that is SOO bad...

;-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
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  #106  
Old August 17th 05, 05:09 AM
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"TaxSrv" wrote

It's not impossible. They use convention management
software which was a finalist in Microsoft's annual world
Windows competition, with awards handed out by Gates himself
at COMDEX. I'll assume that the simplest thing that
software does is tally up the number of daily tickets sold.
Then just add the freebie tickets given out, like to media
and exhibitors, for total attendance.


All well and good, but how do they handle the weekly passes? Are they added
to the total, as new attendees? Do they assume that the holder of a weekly
pass is there each and every day? If so, that could be a big source of
error, since some buy a weekly pass (it is cheaper to do that, if you are
going to be there for say, 4 days, compared to buying 4 daily passes) and
only stay for 4 days.

In my eyes, counting people over and over, for each day is misleading. if
they say 700,000 people, a bunch (400,000 perhaps?) are counted over for
each day. It doesn't seem right.

You know what, though? I don't care in the least bit, what their count is.
It is still a bunch of people, looking at some really cool airplanes, and
airplane stuff. Nothing else comes close. (IMHO)

Oshkosh (AirVenture) ROCKS, BIG TIME!
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Jim (hooked - hook, line and sinker) in NC

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Old August 17th 05, 05:11 AM
Jay Honeck
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You put your finger on one reason I sold the Maule. It took me 45 minutes
on a good day to drive to the airport. Over fairly heavily traveled 2-lane
roads that could easily add half an hour to the trip. Add in 20 minutes to
untie and pre-flight and 15 minutes to put her to bed and the entire
afternoon is gone for even a short flight.


Now George, we've been over this before. If you had been open to moving to
a more GA friendly part of the country, you, too, could have lived 30
seconds from your plane. You opted instead to remain in the congested
eastern part of the US, for purely economic reasons.

While this may have made perfect sense from a marital standpoint, it was
certainly no good reason to sell a perfectly good airplane!

:-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
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"Your Aviation Destination"


  #108  
Old August 17th 05, 05:15 AM
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Well, that's not going to be possible for you. You have said yourself
several times that you just can't understand how people can fail to feel
the magic in aviation. Until you *can* understand that, you will never
figure out why people quit.


Oh, I can understand everything, from a purely intellectual standpoint.
There are always a million good reasons to not fly.

But that's not the part of us that falls in love with the wonders of flight.

Sadly, if you can't understand *that*, you'll never understand my
consternation over pilots who quit the skies.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


  #109  
Old August 17th 05, 05:19 AM
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in
news:3isMe.1815$7f5.1413@okepread01:


"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
ups.com...
Check http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/trend.html for a quantitative
summary of trends. Private, commercial and instrument issuances are
down 12% since 2000. New aircraft shipments are down 10% since 2000.
Avgas sale is down almost 25% since 1999. OK, dying may be an
overstatement, but it is not looking rosy either. On the other hand,
this year's Airventure drew record crowds. I am not sure what to make
of that, but it is probably something similar to what happens in
spectator sports. Large number of people turn up to watch but very
few are able to participate.


Interesting....

Total Student Issuances
59,989
59,311
-1%
-678

Private Issuances
23,826
23,331
-2%
-495





You are comparing the 2004 numbers to 2003. I was comparing the 2004
numbers to the peak year (which in this case was 2002). The change in
private issuance is -18% in that case. Student pilot issuance is also -
11%.



  #110  
Old August 17th 05, 05:20 AM
Morgans
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"RST Engineering" wrote in message
...
I'll argue that from two observations. First, not once in the last 33

years
have I seen the parking lots at the dorms with a single open space after
about 9:30 in the evening. This year they were at least 1/3 empty every
night.

Second, the traffic to get onto the field in the morning was nowhere NEAR

as
congested as any other year.

Either they have stopped driving to Oshkosh or there were fewer people; I
suspect the latter.


Nah, they have finally realized that it is cooler to camp on the field.
Wake up and smell the coffee! vbg

Really, I don't know about the daily attendance. It seemed to me to be
about the same, or up a very small amount. I do feel, without a doubt, that
the Saturday attendance watching the air show, was the biggest I have ever
seen, by a large amount, say 75% more than other
Saturday shows. The amount of homebuilts in the homebuilt showplane and
homebuilt camping area was the largest ever. (according to registration
totals)

Perhaps that is the key, the "watching the show" part. Maybe there was
almost nobody at the booths. I can't say; I was watching the show,
especially White Knight and Spaceship One.
--
Jim in NC

 




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