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  #31  
Old September 5th 05, 11:09 PM
UltraJohn
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Juan Jimenez wrote:

New found fame, Kyle. Look it up in the dictionary. Very few people knew
him when he was put into the Hall (incorrectly, IMO). Orders of magnitude
more people know him now that one of his airplanes killed a billionaire
war hero who loved to help kids get good educations.


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"According to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the pilot was in
communication with the JAC air traffic control tower during the accident
flight. The pilot did not report any problems. Recorded weather at JAC just
prior to the accident indicated the wind from 180 degrees at 4 knots, clear
skies, and a temperature of 66 degrees Fahrenheit.

The airplane impacted sage brush-covered flat terrain approximately 575 feet
west of Highway 89, and 3/4-mile north of the approach end of runway 19.
The airplane wreckage was transported to a vacant hangar at JAC for further
examination by the NTSB. The airplane was equipped with a Hirth 3701 engine
rated at 100 horsepower. Initial examination of the wreckage did not reveal
any obvious indications of pre-impact mechanical malfunctions with the
airframe, engine, or systems. There was no evidence of fire, explosion, or
in-flight structural failure. Control cable continuity for all flight
controls was established. A global positioning system (GPS) receiver was
found in the wreckage; it has been sent to the Safety Board's recorder
laboratory in Washington DC for possible non-volatile memory extraction of
flight path, altitude, and ground speed data."
************************************************** ************************


It appears from the FAA's preliminary investigation that the accident was
not the fault of the aircraft's controls etc etc. Personally my opinion is
he was dead before the plane hit the ground, otherwise how would such an
experience pilot not even communicate a problem with ATC who he was in
contact with?


  #32  
Old September 5th 05, 11:10 PM
Matt Whiting
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RST Engineering wrote:
The girls in Reno say, "Great big belt buckle, little tiny pecker."


And how, Jim, would you know this? :-)

Matt
  #33  
Old September 5th 05, 11:42 PM
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Juan Jimenez wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

You seem really good at trying to throw the blame for aircraft
accidents at first Chuck then myself.



And you seem pretty good at talking out your ass about people you don't know
and things of which you don't have a clue, then thinking you're going to
impress anyone with your bull**** about riding a helo in the war and having
"combat time". That's precisely why you're just another clueless twit to me,
someone who is so insecure about himself you have to flaunt your bull****
medals as if you were some hot**** war hero. You know why I could give a
rat's ass about your medals? Because I worked in SAR for the majority of my
time in the Corps, at SOES in MCAS Cherry Point, and the point of what I did
was to save lives, not to take them and not to boast about getting shot at,
you ****ant putz. My medals are the people our squadron saved to live
another day, people like the little preemie and her hemorraging mom who were
able to be evacuated to a hospital with better facilities because I was able
to correct an APU problem on an CH-46 between the time they announced Launch
Pedro and the time the ambulances came screaming down the ramp. I value that
a lot more than I value your bigshot claims of shooting hooches and
measuring rounds as they flew past your punk ass.
]



Translation: if yawn actually served he was a wrench bender who
stayed on the ground while better men flew the missions. Yawn's combat
time was fighting B girls in clubs and being defeated every time. That's
if anyone believes he was in the Marines.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
  #34  
Old September 5th 05, 11:51 PM
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On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 17:32:16 -0400, "Juan Jimenez"
wrote:

As to your opinion of me, it's shared by what, half a dozen putzes on this
newsgroup?


So glad you asked! Put me down as one who believes that on top of
everything else, you never learned how to count properly.

Wayne
  #35  
Old September 5th 05, 11:51 PM
ChuckSlusarczyk
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In article , Juan Jimenez says...


"ChuckSlusarczyk" wrote in message
...

says it all, only a person of the lowest moral and ethical standards would
find
enjoyment in anothers tragic death.


And only a proven lowlife like you would try to blame it on the pilot when
its obvious the pilot did nothing wrong.


Oh!! so now you know more then the NTSB.I better call them and let them know
you've already got it all figured out and they better stop wasting their
time..Sheesh

Chuck S

"there are jerks and then there are JERKS"

  #36  
Old September 5th 05, 11:58 PM
ChuckSlusarczyk
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In article . net, UltraJohn
says...

Juan Jimenez wrote:

New found fame, Kyle. Look it up in the dictionary. Very few people knew
him when he was put into the Hall (incorrectly, IMO). Orders of magnitude
more people know him now that one of his airplanes killed a billionaire
war hero who loved to help kids get good educations.


************************************************* ************************
"According to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the pilot was in
communication with the JAC air traffic control tower during the accident
flight. The pilot did not report any problems. Recorded weather at JAC just
prior to the accident indicated the wind from 180 degrees at 4 knots, clear
skies, and a temperature of 66 degrees Fahrenheit.

The airplane impacted sage brush-covered flat terrain approximately 575 feet
west of Highway 89, and 3/4-mile north of the approach end of runway 19.
The airplane wreckage was transported to a vacant hangar at JAC for further
examination by the NTSB. The airplane was equipped with a Hirth 3701 engine
rated at 100 horsepower. Initial examination of the wreckage did not reveal
any obvious indications of pre-impact mechanical malfunctions with the
airframe, engine, or systems. There was no evidence of fire, explosion, or
in-flight structural failure. Control cable continuity for all flight
controls was established. A global positioning system (GPS) receiver was
found in the wreckage; it has been sent to the Safety Board's recorder
laboratory in Washington DC for possible non-volatile memory extraction of
flight path, altitude, and ground speed data."
************************************************* *************************


It appears from the FAA's preliminary investigation that the accident was
not the fault of the aircraft's controls etc etc. Personally my opinion is
he was dead before the plane hit the ground, otherwise how would such an
experience pilot not even communicate a problem with ATC who he was in
contact with?



John
There's a lot jaun doesn't know but that doesn't stop him from spouting off. As
Sister Mary Holy Smoke used to say "an empty can makes the most noise" and jaun
is proving the good Sister right.
I'm heading out to Jackson Hole to meet with the NTSB next week and give what
ever assistance I can.

See ya

Chuck S



  #37  
Old September 6th 05, 12:55 AM
Kyle Boatright
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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
...

"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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I think Chuck was named to the Ultralight Hall of Fame because he was
already famous due to his long successsful work in the industry. That's
how it works.


New found fame, Kyle. Look it up in the dictionary. Very few people knew
him when he was put into the Hall (incorrectly, IMO). Orders of magnitude
more people know him now that one of his airplanes killed a billionaire
war hero who loved to help kids get good educations.


And the Beatles and Rolling Stones went into the Rock and Roll Hall of fame
before they were famous, eh? Nice try, but it don't play in the big city.


As to your opinion of me, it's shared by what, half a dozen putzes on this
newsgroup? ROFL! Just on my mailing list alone I have 400+ people who
could care less what planet you live on, let alone who you are. Get my
drift?


You're right, my opinion of you is probably shared by half a dozen or so
putzes on this newsgroup. The rest of the group isn't quite as charitable
towards you.

KB


  #38  
Old September 6th 05, 01:05 AM
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
RST Engineering wrote:



The girls in Reno say, "Great big belt buckle, little tiny pecker."


And how, Jim, would you know this? :-)


Reno (Washoe County NV) and Grass Valley (Nevada County CA) share a common
border and a common history. The last semilegal (the cops looked the other
way) cathouse in Grass Valley was Barrelhouse Bessie's; the cops shut them
down about 40 years ago. There are still a dozen "quiet" houses in Grass
Valley where a gentleman can get a drink and the lead removed from his
pencil if you know what I mean.

Barrelhouse Bessie's is still a restaurant where you can get a tour of the
upstairs rooms if you know the owner.

Local flathat miners with a short claim on the river are taking millions of
untaxed gold out of the rivers every year in this county.

Jim (tiny little belt buckle, great long and thick ...)



  #39  
Old September 6th 05, 01:49 AM
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In article , Darrel Toepfer says...

ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:

Karma has a funny way of taking care of people like him, so I'm just
waiting for jauns turn....


Karmageddon: It's like, when everybody is sending off all these
really bad vibes, right? And then, like, the Earth explodes and it's
like, a serious bummer.


WOW!! far out man, you really got it together know what I mean ?like it's cosmic
and then all the clouds melt and like it floods then some really tripped out guy
like comes and gets everybody and..... :-)

Chuck( far out) S

  #40  
Old September 6th 05, 02:39 AM
Darrel Toepfer
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ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:

WOW!! far out man, you really got it together know what I mean ?like it's cosmic
and then all the clouds melt and like it floods then some really tripped out guy
like comes and gets everybody and..... :-)


Right on d00d!!! Congrats on the recognition, nice article in Kitplanes...
 




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