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  #51  
Old September 8th 05, 12:25 PM
gregg
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Jay Honeck wrote:

I don't think the terminology is worth obsessing over. But still less is
anyone's obsession over it worth obsessing over.


Sometimes it seems like we couldn't make this kind of stuff up if we
tried!

;-)



I paraphrase (heavily) from a patrick O'Brian Book:

They have a suffused constant indignance which, if there was nothing to
warrant it at present, they were sure something would come along.


--
Saville

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Restoration of my 82 year old Herreshoff S-Boat sailboat:

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Steambending FAQ with photos:

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  #52  
Old September 8th 05, 02:29 PM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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It must be very limiting to be so tied to the land that you can't let go.

One of the greatest feelings of freedom I've experienced was when I

realized
that "home" was a state of mind, and not a place.


I see what you're saying, but a lot of these folks don't have much. They
don't have much in the way of resources, so they hold on dearly to what they
do have, even if it's just memories or a "feeling" of home. I believe one of
the biggest failures of the emergency response to this catastrophy is
governments (local and federal) not understanding the issues of evacuating
people of little means.

Also, about home not being a place, I don't believe kids think like that.
Moving anywhere is downright traumatic to all but the youngest of them.
We've got refugees, excuse me, evacuees, here in NC and several are kids of
elementary school age. It's got to be really scary for them to lose all that
they have known, living in a shelter and to have no friends. Kids need
security and as hard as it is for adults to go through this, it is 10 times
harder for the kids.

-Trent
PP-ASEL


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Old September 8th 05, 02:55 PM
Jay Honeck
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Also, about home not being a place, I don't believe kids think like that.
Moving anywhere is downright traumatic to all but the youngest of them.
We've got refugees, excuse me, evacuees, here in NC and several are kids
of
elementary school age. It's got to be really scary for them to lose all
that
they have known, living in a shelter and to have no friends. Kids need
security and as hard as it is for adults to go through this, it is 10
times
harder for the kids.


Oh, absolutely. As a kid, "home" was my house, my friends, and my toys. To
have that wrenched from me (as it was when, as an 9 year old, we moved to a
big, new city) was traumatic. I didn't come to my "home-is-a-state-of-mind
epiphany" until I was in my late 30s.

What N.O. kids are going through right now has to be combination of the
world's greatest adventure, and the world's greatest trauma... Luckily,
kids are incredibly resilient.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old September 8th 05, 03:41 PM
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I was taken from Laos, dropped off in Thailand at the age of three. At
the eight of nine, I was brought to Elheart, KS. Six months later I
was brought to Herndon, VA. I went to Herndon Elementary, Herndon
Intermediate, Herdon High. All in Herdon , VA. I went to Radford
Univ. also in VA. I now live in Sterling, VA not far from my dad who
lives in sterling bordering Herndon. I have been in VA since that move
from Kansas (Christmas '76). I'm reluctant to move far away because I
see Herndon/Sterling, VA as "home". My wife too! We had a chance to
live overseas, on the taxpayer's dime, for a few years, but passed it
up. We have our routine down pat as far as living here.

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Old September 8th 05, 03:46 PM
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that should have been "age of nine" not eight of nine.

Home is where one feels 'at home'.

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Old September 8th 05, 04:10 PM
W P Dixon
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Imagine seeing someone on the newsgroup that went to Radford. Pretty area of
Virginia, just a few hours drive from my house I tried like heck to find
a place around there and Roanoke to fly with no luck. Not much going on at
Virginia Highlands either.

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Flyingmonk" wrote in message
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I was taken from Laos, dropped off in Thailand at the age of three. At
the eight of nine, I was brought to Elheart, KS. Six months later I
was brought to Herndon, VA. I went to Herndon Elementary, Herndon
Intermediate, Herdon High. All in Herdon , VA. I went to Radford
Univ. also in VA. I now live in Sterling, VA not far from my dad who
lives in sterling bordering Herndon. I have been in VA since that move
from Kansas (Christmas '76). I'm reluctant to move far away because I
see Herndon/Sterling, VA as "home". My wife too! We had a chance to
live overseas, on the taxpayer's dime, for a few years, but passed it
up. We have our routine down pat as far as living here.


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Old September 8th 05, 04:22 PM
john smith
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Also, about home not being a place, I don't believe kids think like that.
Moving anywhere is downright traumatic to all but the youngest of them.
We've got refugees, excuse me, evacuees, here in NC and several are kids of
elementary school age. It's got to be really scary for them to lose all that
they have known, living in a shelter and to have no friends. Kids need
security and as hard as it is for adults to go through this, it is 10 times
harder for the kids.


Wow! That's totally different from my experiences.
I find that kids adapt much more quickly than their parents.
Up until middle school (6 grade - 8 grade) when they start to form
social cliques (the kids, that is).
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Old September 8th 05, 04:25 PM
Peter R.
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Oh, absolutely. As a kid, "home" was my house, my friends, and my toys. To
have that wrenched from me (as it was when, as an 9 year old, we moved to a
big, new city) was traumatic. I didn't come to my "home-is-a-state-of-mind
epiphany" until I was in my late 30s.


My family moved every two years (completely different school districts) of
my life until I entered high school.

I have vowed to remain in the same home for the sake of my young children.

--
Peter
























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Old September 8th 05, 04:28 PM
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As early as this past weekend health officials were talking about
mold and spores that will run rampant as soon as the water level
recedes. (receeds?) Even if the sturcture is still viable, it will
probably be torn down to avoid the mold contamination.

I have this odd feeling that after the flood will come a man-made
fire to kill off the mold, spores, germs, etc. Not being involved
with any health organization (and flunking chemistry and barely
making it thru biology in high school) I don't know any other way
to uncontaminate the area.


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Old September 8th 05, 04:56 PM
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"Darrel Toepfer" wrote in message
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You gotta remember, alot went to Texas as the article mentioned,
"Texas, its like a whole other country." The fact that they distributed
$2k debit cards to those in the Astrodome,


....were and/or are *planning* to distribute... *not* distributed



 




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