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Kilo Charlie wrote:
A story related to me from the east coast site where I once flew but after I left there. A 1-26 pilot wrecked the glider and had major injuries. He rebuilt it then recovered it. They did a very thorough preflight as is required after doing that type of thing. Only problem is that they confirmed the ailerons were connected but didn't notice that they worked opposite of what they should have. Pilot took off and released soon thereafter again wrecking the glider. Pilot (different person) was uninjured. Cables were "crossed". I know at least one Blanik and one Libelle have suffered reversed rudder after maintenance, but I'd say that comes under "incorrect assembly" (and poor pre-flight) rather than an in-flight failure. -- Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA |
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Start tall story
A local crew on a cattle property west of here used to do a bit of pig shooting from a Skyfox using a gas auto 12 gauge... Happily plugging away until one of the ejected cartridges found it's way under the floor into the controls. Wasn't apparent until the craft didn't want to come out of the steep bank. All survived, even a few more of the pigs ;-) End tall story Don COLIN LAMB wrote: I have had a pair of unused headphones wedge below a collective on a helicopter. Learned real quick. There may be a number of cases where non-attached items wedge themselves in to cause problems with controls. Glider pilots often carry loose water bottles, gps receivers or cameras that are waiting to find novel ways of lodging themselves. Colin |
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Capt. Geoffry Thorpe wrote:
"Sid" wrote in message ... I read a story, in a Canadian soaring magasine about 20-25 years ago, about a girl forced to bail out of here glider (HP-14?) because a loose item in the cockpit had jammed the stick. Landed in a river and almost drowned. Anyone have the original article? This one? http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/Stories/Bailout.htm -- Geoff the sea hawk at wow way d0t com remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail Spell checking is left as an excercise for the reader. Amazing story to re-read. Thanks for the link Geoff. |
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Hello,
a clubmate landed his ASH-25 with one of the center flaperons disconnected and hanging in the full down position. The ASH has three control surfaces on each wing. His reaction was that the glider had a great rolling tendancy and needed full opposite aileron and rudder to keep straight. It was only on final that his rear passenger noted one flaperon hanging down, so the pilot selected some positive flaps and he made a good landing. I also know of a Standard Libelle pilot who suffered aileron flutter due to some loose connection. Spectators said it was a very nasty sight, but the landing was fairly ok. |
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In article .com, Mike
the Strike writes Following the thread on landing with one spoiler, I wonder what proportion of landing accidents result from mechanical failure or jamming of primary flight controls and spoilers/dive brakes. I personally know of a couple of failures - one spoiler handle sheared off as the pilot did his pre-landing checks and he landed safely off-field and another had a pencil jam in controls, limiting control movement, but again landed safely. With the exception of incorrect assembly, I have to believe that asymmetric control failure or jamming must be an extremely rare cause of landing accidents compared to the more common reasons we all know. Any actual data or good anecdotes? About 35 years ago a well known pilot was killed when one of the flying controls, I think the elevator, was jammed by a spanner (wrench) which had been lodged in the glider since it was built. It seems the aero's he was doing freed this FB, which was later identified as being "of Eastern European origin". It had a "witness mark" on it which helped the investigators determine what had happened. I think the a/c was either a Bocian or a Blanik. The victim was a former RAF warrant officer who was my CFI at RAF Andover in 1948. His name was Andy Goff. -- Mike Lindsay |
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Blanik.....
Any at least spell his name correctly, Andy Gough At 20:48 02 October 2005, Mike Lindsay wrote: In article , Mike the Strike writes Following the thread on landing with one spoiler, I wonder what proportion of landing accidents result from mechanical failure or jamming of primary flight controls and spoilers/dive brakes. I personally know of a couple of failures - one spoiler handle sheared off as the pilot did his pre-landing checks and he landed safely off-field and another had a pencil jam in controls, limiting control movement, but again landed safely. With the exception of incorrect assembly, I have to believe that asymmetric control failure or jamming must be an extremely rare cause of landing accidents compared to the more common reasons we all know. Any actual data or good anecdotes? About 35 years ago a well known pilot was killed when one of the flying controls, I think the elevator, was jammed by a spanner (wrench) which had been lodged in the glider since it was built. It seems the aero's he was doing freed this FB, which was later identified as being 'of Eastern European origin'. It had a 'witness mark' on it which helped the investigators determine what had happened. I think the a/c was either a Bocian or a Blanik. The victim was a former RAF warrant officer who was my CFI at RAF Andover in 1948. His name was Andy Goff. -- Mike Lindsay |
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In article , Mike Lindsay
writes In article .com, Mike the Strike writes Following the thread on landingFB, which was later identified as being "of Eastern European origin". It had a "witness mark" on it which helped the investigators determine what had happened. I think the a/c was either a Bocian or a Blanik. The victim was a former RAF warrant officer who was my CFI at RAF Andover in 1948. His name was Andy Goff. Apologies. Of course it was Gough not Goff. And it was 1958, not 48. Gough. Old age strikes again. -- Mike Lindsay |
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I always use the "thumbs up" method when doing my PCC. Grab the stick
with thumb sticking up. The thumb should point to the upward going aileron. I usually verbally call out to the helper "Left aileron up." etc. Larry "Kilo Charlie" NOSPAMkilocharlie.cox.net wrote in message news:Tyl%e.14547$GQ4.11790@fed1read05: A story related to me from the east coast site where I once flew but after I left there. A 1-26 pilot wrecked the glider and had major injuries. He rebuilt it then recovered it. They did a very thorough preflight as is required after doing that type of thing. Only problem is that they confirmed the ailerons were connected but didn't notice that they worked opposite of what they should have. Pilot took off and released soon thereafter again wrecking the glider. Pilot (different person) was uninjured. Cables were "crossed". Casey Lenox KC Phoenix |
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Aileron cables in a 1-26, that IS a good story.
Kilo Charlie wrote: A 1-26 pilot wrecked the glider... Only problem is that they confirmed the ailerons were connected but didn't notice that they worked opposite of what they should have... Cables were "crossed". |
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![]() "jphoenix" wrote in message oups.com... Aileron cables in a 1-26, that IS a good story. Kilo Charlie wrote: A 1-26 pilot wrecked the glider... Only problem is that they confirmed the ailerons were connected but didn't notice that they worked opposite of what they should have... Cables were "crossed". As I recall the story, the elevator cables were misconnected. A proper PCC would have caught it. |
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