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  #11  
Old October 1st 05, 04:02 AM
Eric Greenwell
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Kilo Charlie wrote:

A story related to me from the east coast site where I once flew but after I
left there.

A 1-26 pilot wrecked the glider and had major injuries. He rebuilt it then
recovered it. They did a very thorough preflight as is required after doing
that type of thing. Only problem is that they confirmed the ailerons were
connected but didn't notice that they worked opposite of what they should
have. Pilot took off and released soon thereafter again wrecking the
glider. Pilot (different person) was uninjured. Cables were "crossed".


I know at least one Blanik and one Libelle have suffered reversed rudder
after maintenance, but I'd say that comes under "incorrect assembly"
(and poor pre-flight) rather than an in-flight failure.


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  #12  
Old October 1st 05, 04:23 AM
Don
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Start tall story

A local crew on a cattle property west of here used to do a bit of pig shooting
from a Skyfox using a gas auto 12 gauge...

Happily plugging away until one of the ejected cartridges found it's way under
the floor into the controls. Wasn't apparent until the craft didn't want to come
out of the steep bank. All survived, even a few more of the pigs ;-)

End tall story

Don

COLIN LAMB wrote:
I have had a pair of unused headphones wedge below a collective on a
helicopter. Learned real quick. There may be a number of cases where
non-attached items wedge themselves in to cause problems with controls.

Glider pilots often carry loose water bottles, gps receivers or cameras that
are waiting to find novel ways of lodging themselves.

Colin


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Old October 1st 05, 07:56 PM
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Capt. Geoffry Thorpe wrote:
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I read a story, in a Canadian soaring magasine about 20-25 years ago,
about a girl forced to bail out of here glider (HP-14?) because a loose
item in the cockpit had jammed the stick. Landed in a river and almost
drowned.

Anyone have the original article?



This one?
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/Stories/Bailout.htm

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Amazing story to re-read. Thanks for the link Geoff.
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Old October 2nd 05, 06:08 PM
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Hello,

a clubmate landed his ASH-25 with one of the center flaperons
disconnected and hanging in the full down position. The ASH has three
control surfaces on each wing. His reaction was that the glider had a
great rolling tendancy and needed full opposite aileron and rudder to
keep straight. It was only on final that his rear passenger noted one
flaperon hanging down, so the pilot selected some positive flaps and he
made a good landing.

I also know of a Standard Libelle pilot who suffered aileron flutter
due to some loose connection. Spectators said it was a very nasty
sight, but the landing was fairly ok.

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Old October 2nd 05, 09:31 PM
Mike Lindsay
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In article .com, Mike
the Strike writes
Following the thread on landing with one spoiler, I wonder what
proportion of landing accidents result from mechanical failure or
jamming of primary flight controls and spoilers/dive brakes. I
personally know of a couple of failures - one spoiler handle sheared
off as the pilot did his pre-landing checks and he landed safely
off-field and another had a pencil jam in controls, limiting control
movement, but again landed safely.

With the exception of incorrect assembly, I have to believe that
asymmetric control failure or jamming must be an extremely rare cause
of landing accidents compared to the more common reasons we all know.

Any actual data or good anecdotes?

About 35 years ago a well known pilot was killed when one of the flying
controls, I think the elevator, was jammed by a spanner (wrench) which
had been lodged in the glider since it was built.
It seems the aero's he was doing freed this FB, which was later
identified as being "of Eastern European origin". It had a "witness
mark" on it which helped the investigators determine what had happened.
I think the a/c was either a Bocian or a Blanik.

The victim was a former RAF warrant officer who was my CFI at RAF
Andover in 1948. His name was Andy Goff.
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Old October 2nd 05, 10:53 PM
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Blanik.....
Any at least spell his name correctly, Andy Gough



At 20:48 02 October 2005, Mike Lindsay wrote:
In article , Mike
the Strike writes
Following the thread on landing with one spoiler, I
wonder what
proportion of landing accidents result from mechanical
failure or
jamming of primary flight controls and spoilers/dive
brakes. I
personally know of a couple of failures - one spoiler
handle sheared
off as the pilot did his pre-landing checks and he
landed safely
off-field and another had a pencil jam in controls,
limiting control
movement, but again landed safely.

With the exception of incorrect assembly, I have to
believe that
asymmetric control failure or jamming must be an extremely
rare cause
of landing accidents compared to the more common reasons
we all know.

Any actual data or good anecdotes?

About 35 years ago a well known pilot was killed when
one of the flying
controls, I think the elevator, was jammed by a spanner
(wrench) which
had been lodged in the glider since it was built.
It seems the aero's he was doing freed this FB, which
was later
identified as being 'of Eastern European origin'. It
had a 'witness
mark' on it which helped the investigators determine
what had happened.
I think the a/c was either a Bocian or a Blanik.

The victim was a former RAF warrant officer who was
my CFI at RAF
Andover in 1948. His name was Andy Goff.
--
Mike Lindsay




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Old October 3rd 05, 05:57 PM
Mike Lindsay
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In article , Mike Lindsay
writes
In article .com, Mike
the Strike writes
Following the thread on landingFB, which was later

identified as being "of Eastern European origin". It had a "witness
mark" on it which helped the investigators determine what had happened.
I think the a/c was either a Bocian or a Blanik.

The victim was a former RAF warrant officer who was my CFI at RAF
Andover in 1948. His name was Andy Goff.


Apologies. Of course it was Gough not Goff. And it was 1958, not 48.
Gough.

Old age strikes again.
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  #18  
Old October 10th 05, 05:57 PM
01-- Zero One
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I always use the "thumbs up" method when doing my PCC. Grab the stick
with thumb sticking up. The thumb should point to the upward going
aileron.



I usually verbally call out to the helper "Left aileron up." etc.



Larry





"Kilo Charlie" NOSPAMkilocharlie.cox.net wrote in message
news:Tyl%e.14547$GQ4.11790@fed1read05:

A story related to me from the east coast site where I once flew but after I
left there.

A 1-26 pilot wrecked the glider and had major injuries. He rebuilt it then
recovered it. They did a very thorough preflight as is required after doing
that type of thing. Only problem is that they confirmed the ailerons were
connected but didn't notice that they worked opposite of what they should
have. Pilot took off and released soon thereafter again wrecking the
glider. Pilot (different person) was uninjured. Cables were "crossed".

Casey Lenox
KC
Phoenix



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Old October 11th 05, 04:02 PM
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Aileron cables in a 1-26, that IS a good story.


Kilo Charlie wrote:

A 1-26 pilot wrecked the glider... Only problem is that they confirmed the ailerons were connected but didn't notice that they worked opposite of what they should have... Cables were "crossed".


  #20  
Old October 12th 05, 05:03 PM
Jim Vincent
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"jphoenix" wrote in message
oups.com...
Aileron cables in a 1-26, that IS a good story.


Kilo Charlie wrote:

A 1-26 pilot wrecked the glider... Only problem is that they confirmed
the ailerons were connected but didn't notice that they worked opposite
of what they should have... Cables were "crossed".


As I recall the story, the elevator cables were misconnected. A proper PCC
would have caught it.


 




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