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Old October 18th 05, 10:27 PM
Dave Stadt
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"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
My point is illustrated in the photo accompanying the article below. I
find the posting of the Concorde, which no longer flies due mainly to the
highly publicized fiery crash outside Paris a few years back, as the
"plane of the month to be ironic. (irony = incongruity between what might
be expected and what actually occurs)

http://www.rense.com/general2/conc.htm



I'm sorry, you make absolutely no sense.


  #72  
Old October 18th 05, 10:42 PM
Skylune
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Your first paragraph: i agree to an extent. I disagree to the extent that
by climbing into a plane, you are assuming exactly the same risk as the
pilot.

In the case of the second paragraph, I would (and have) let my kids in
cars driven by others if (and only if) I had confidence in the driver's
ability, judgement, and experience.

Simply because someone volunteers to fly YE does not make them safe or
competent pilots. Statistically, GA is the most dangerous of all forms
of transportation. There is no (reasonable) debate on this point. Is it
safe? Depends on your risk threshold.

However, as a parent, knowing that GA is the riskiest form of transport,
combined with not knowing who the heck is flying your kid around, and how
well maintained the plane is, is an unacceptable risk in my book. Better
to fly with a pilot that you know well and trust.

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Old October 18th 05, 10:52 PM
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Skylune wrote:
Better to fly with a pilot that you know well and trust.


which is also an option with YE -- and as I found out, far more
enjoyable for the pilot as well; nobody puts a gun to the
head of the parents forcing them to take part.

--Sylvain
  #74  
Old October 18th 05, 11:23 PM
Jay Beckman
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"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
Your first paragraph: i agree to an extent. I disagree to the extent that
by climbing into a plane, you are assuming exactly the same risk as the
pilot.

In the case of the second paragraph, I would (and have) let my kids in
cars driven by others if (and only if) I had confidence in the driver's
ability, judgement, and experience.

Simply because someone volunteers to fly YE does not make them safe or
competent pilots. Statistically, GA is the most dangerous of all forms
of transportation. There is no (reasonable) debate on this point. Is it
safe? Depends on your risk threshold.


Which sector of GA?

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ


  #75  
Old October 19th 05, 12:22 AM
Matt Whiting
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Skylune wrote:
My point is illustrated in the photo accompanying the article below. I
find the posting of the Concorde, which no longer flies due mainly to the
highly publicized fiery crash outside Paris a few years back, as the
"plane of the month to be ironic. (irony = incongruity between what might
be expected and what actually occurs)


No, the primary reason was economics. And with the recent increase in
fuel prices, it was probably a very insightful move.

Matt
  #76  
Old October 19th 05, 12:27 AM
Greg Farris
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In article ,
says...



"Skylune" wrote in message
alkaboutaviation.com...
Hey. While poking around their website some more, I came across their
"Airplane of the Month" photo. Man, you can't make this stuff up......

http://www.youngeagles.org/airplanem...ober&year=2005


Your point is?



I think the "lune" is getting the better of Skylune.
Usually presenting himself as "anti-GA" he now attacks the Concorde, which
is about as far as one gets from GA, this side of the SR-71.

Alzheimers is a tragedy.

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Old October 19th 05, 01:49 AM
Margy
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Not that I should need any sort of example, but one need only look to Jay
Honeck's travel with his family in his airplane. This sort of thing
happens all the time in the aviation world, just as families travel
together in automobiles all the time. It just doesn't make sense, from an
"enjoy life" point of view, to waste time trying to keep families apart.



Mary and I have debated this for over a decade, now -- and I believe there
is no better answer than this:

Life is a terminal condition. Live it for all its worth, now, cuz you could
be struck down with Lou Gehrig's disease at any time. (See Lane Wallace's
"Flying" column this month for a sobering report on what kind of a bad hand
life can deal you.)

We fly as a family, whenever and wherever we can, over 170 hours per year.
We fly in a single-engine plane, which gives us just one way of going up
(there are a hundred ways to come down), and it's 31 years old. We maintain
Atlas to the highest standards, but anything can happen at any time, and
we've trained extensively to handle those situations.


.....

My theory is if you all go down together it's better than if 2 of you go
down. At least the grieving is out of the immediate family. Now, if
just you and Mary fly together and leave the kids home make sure the
will has them going to nice folks. On the other hand you probably
aren't too far away from the kids going off flying and leaving you and
Mary at home :-)

Margy
  #78  
Old October 19th 05, 04:11 AM
Tom Conner
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"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
Your first paragraph: i agree to an extent. I disagree to the extent that
by climbing into a plane, you are assuming exactly the same risk as the
pilot.


Who are you replying to? Stop just writing stuff without the text that
generated your response. Try to learn how to post. Its not that difficult.
Even if you have a valid point, it is being lost because your posts are not
autonomous.


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Old October 19th 05, 08:38 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Skylune,

Commercial flight is the safest form of
transportation, GA is the most dangerous.


Both those statements are wrong.
--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old October 19th 05, 08:38 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Tom,

Please don't remove what you are replying to since it makes your answer
ambigious


Please get a decent newsreader that will show context ;-)

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

 




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