Slick Goodlin dead at 82

Bill wrote:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:57:10 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote:


Has anybody ever met anyone that actually likes Yeager. Latest word is his
own kids are now on the outs after his recent female episode.




I like Yeager, but I was sure disappointed this year at Oshkosh.

My 8 year old daughter has gone to bed with stories of aviation's
greats for several years. She's enthralled with it all, and will
describe how much Mike Melville's wife loves him (She's seen the Black
Sky DVDs a half dozen times) or gladly tell you how Yeager broke the
sound barrier with a broken rib, how he used a broom handle, etc.

When she found out that Rutan would be at Oshkosh this year, along
with SpaceShipOne, she made me promise we would go. Go we did, and I
sat down with her and my two older boys to plan our stay there. Of
course we had to see Rutan and Yeager, which is how I found myself
sitting in on the last half of Bob Hoover's presentation in the
Heritage Museum.

Hoover's such a gentleman. Then Yeager came on, and the first thing
we got was a 20 minute video on Yeager. It seemed strange. He just
sat on stage for the whole thing, which would have been interesting to
watch at home, but not sitting there.

Yes, Hoover is a class act all the way. Yeager is ego all the way.
Great pilots both, but if I could win a day with either one, the choice
would be a no-brainer.


Matt

It doesn't matter what kind of person one really is,
I guess, it only matters how one is portrayed by
the popular media.

Although I understand what Jay Beckman means, what you meant is true,
too. The public, even interested persons like me, know nothing about
people in the news except what the media say about them.

Perhaps the Internet now provides a corrective, as you have done here.
Thanks for responding.

BTW, I disliked Wolfe's book; his writing style offended me.

vince norris

In article ,
Matt Whiting wrote:

Bill wrote:

On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:57:10 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote:


Has anybody ever met anyone that actually likes Yeager. Latest word is his
own kids are now on the outs after his recent female episode.




I like Yeager, but I was sure disappointed this year at Oshkosh.

My 8 year old daughter has gone to bed with stories of aviation's
greats for several years. She's enthralled with it all, and will
describe how much Mike Melville's wife loves him (She's seen the Black
Sky DVDs a half dozen times) or gladly tell you how Yeager broke the
sound barrier with a broken rib, how he used a broom handle, etc.

When she found out that Rutan would be at Oshkosh this year, along
with SpaceShipOne, she made me promise we would go. Go we did, and I
sat down with her and my two older boys to plan our stay there. Of
course we had to see Rutan and Yeager, which is how I found myself
sitting in on the last half of Bob Hoover's presentation in the
Heritage Museum.

Hoover's such a gentleman. Then Yeager came on, and the first thing
we got was a 20 minute video on Yeager. It seemed strange. He just
sat on stage for the whole thing, which would have been interesting to
watch at home, but not sitting there.

Yes, Hoover is a class act all the way. Yeager is ego all the way.
Great pilots both, but if I could win a day with either one, the choice
would be a no-brainer.

I have a friend who gave instrument proficiency checks to both Yeager
and Hoover (and flew F-100s with Gabreski). You should hear some of the
tales!

Orval Fairbairn wrote:

In article ,
Matt Whiting wrote:


Bill wrote:


On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:57:10 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote:



Has anybody ever met anyone that actually likes Yeager. Latest word is his
own kids are now on the outs after his recent female episode.




I like Yeager, but I was sure disappointed this year at Oshkosh.

My 8 year old daughter has gone to bed with stories of aviation's
greats for several years. She's enthralled with it all, and will
describe how much Mike Melville's wife loves him (She's seen the Black
Sky DVDs a half dozen times) or gladly tell you how Yeager broke the
sound barrier with a broken rib, how he used a broom handle, etc.

When she found out that Rutan would be at Oshkosh this year, along
with SpaceShipOne, she made me promise we would go. Go we did, and I
sat down with her and my two older boys to plan our stay there. Of
course we had to see Rutan and Yeager, which is how I found myself
sitting in on the last half of Bob Hoover's presentation in the
Heritage Museum.

Hoover's such a gentleman. Then Yeager came on, and the first thing
we got was a 20 minute video on Yeager. It seemed strange. He just
sat on stage for the whole thing, which would have been interesting to
watch at home, but not sitting there.

Yes, Hoover is a class act all the way. Yeager is ego all the way.
Great pilots both, but if I could win a day with either one, the choice
would be a no-brainer.


I have a friend who gave instrument proficiency checks to both Yeager
and Hoover (and flew F-100s with Gabreski). You should hear some of the
tales!

I'd love to. Care to share any?

Matt

In article ,
Matt Whiting wrote:

Orval Fairbairn wrote:

In article ,
Matt Whiting wrote:


Bill wrote:


On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:57:10 GMT, "Dave Stadt"
wrote:



Has anybody ever met anyone that actually likes Yeager. Latest word is
his
own kids are now on the outs after his recent female episode.




I like Yeager, but I was sure disappointed this year at Oshkosh.

My 8 year old daughter has gone to bed with stories of aviation's
greats for several years. She's enthralled with it all, and will
describe how much Mike Melville's wife loves him (She's seen the Black
Sky DVDs a half dozen times) or gladly tell you how Yeager broke the
sound barrier with a broken rib, how he used a broom handle, etc.

When she found out that Rutan would be at Oshkosh this year, along
with SpaceShipOne, she made me promise we would go. Go we did, and I
sat down with her and my two older boys to plan our stay there. Of
course we had to see Rutan and Yeager, which is how I found myself
sitting in on the last half of Bob Hoover's presentation in the
Heritage Museum.

Hoover's such a gentleman. Then Yeager came on, and the first thing
we got was a 20 minute video on Yeager. It seemed strange. He just
sat on stage for the whole thing, which would have been interesting to
watch at home, but not sitting there.

Yes, Hoover is a class act all the way. Yeager is ego all the way.
Great pilots both, but if I could win a day with either one, the choice
would be a no-brainer.


I have a friend who gave instrument proficiency checks to both Yeager
and Hoover (and flew F-100s with Gabreski). You should hear some of the
tales!

I'd love to. Care to share any?

Matt

He didn't like Gabreski and considered both Hoover and Yeager to be
marginal on the gages.

Another friend's father was a close friend of Yeager and has some
uncomplimentary stories about Chuck, too.

Matt Whiting wrote:
If I could win a day with either one, the choice would be a
no-brainer.

How many of those are there? Yawn and Zzzoom are the only 2 that come to
mind. Well Yawn has half a one so guess he doesn't count...

Hilton wrote:

Tom wrote:

"I've read that Slick wanted a huge bundle of dough to test the
X-1, which is why Yeager, who was willing to do it for regular
service pay, got the job. "

Goodlin said that he asked for the amount he was contracted
for--and an extra amount, agreed upon by the other pilots, for the
widow of a pilot killed earlier in the testing. The scene in the
movie was total fiction, like many of the scenes in the movie.

I was amazed that Alan Shepard managed to come through the
atmosphere 'sharp
side' down - we don't need no steekin' heat shield.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? Over.
Didn't happen.

I also didn't
like the
way they portrayed Gus.

The book and the movie did Gus Grissom an incredible disservice.

I seem to remember hearing that Scott Crossfield
refused to work with them because of all the 'errors'.

I wouldn't be surprised at that at all - Gen. Yeager had definitely
bedazzled Wolfe and whoever adapted the book into the screenplay, and
he's never had too much good to say about Crossfield or too many of
the other NACA Test Pilots.

--
Pete Stickney
Java Man knew nothing about coffee.

"Having said all that, my wife and I love the movie. "

Well, it's a good movie--some of the best American actors of the time
in it--and it has a few potent things to say about Fame despite the
inexactitudes. For example, the look on Alan Shepard's face after the
goober finds out he isn't Glenn and asks him where Glenn is. Probably a
lot like the look on Bud Anderson's face when someone calls him
Yeager's wingman.

He didn't like Gabreski and considered both Hoover and Yeager to be
marginal on the gages.

I wonder if that's not uncommon? Being a fighter ace and flying on the
gauges are totally different skills.

In fact, now that I ponder it, being the aggressive, unpredictable,
sharp-eyed fighter ace is almost diametrically opposed to the image of a
skillful, competent IFR pilot.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

I wonder if that's not uncommon? Being a fighter ace and flying on the
gauges are totally different skills.

Flying escort fighters from Britain during WWII required long periods of
instrument work in a marginally stable platform on a regular basis.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.