Good for another 2 years

such as trying to dead
horse head in the bed technique first?

That's a new technique to me. What website do =you= visit?

Jose
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I can't see diddly on a sectional anymore without holding it four
inches from my eyes. Can anyone recommend "progressive" bi-focals?
How about TRI-focals? Any benefit there?
--

I use trifocals. Got them because I wanted to see the instrument panel for
IFR without having to twist my head from side-to-side (vertigo inducing) and
also see approach plates up close. I also spend a lot of time in front of a
large computer screen.

Two things make them work for me: 1) The middle lens is set to focus at
about 18" (~instrument panel and/or CRT distance), which I believe is a bit
non-standard, and 2) the middle lens is 10mm high, which is very
non-standard. They'll try to tell you that 7mm is all that is available, but
this is not true. Settle for nothing less than the 10mm height. That plus
insisting that the frames are adjusted perfectly so the left and right eyes
are always looking through the same near/middle/far lens makes them easy for
me to use and adjust to. The top of the middle lens appears about 10 degrees
below my horizon, which I find about right.

Deane Judd
1977 Cessna R172K (XP) N1514V

Jay Honeck wrote:
I have my Class 2 renewal in January and have been wondering what a
difference the presbyopia that I started noticing in low light a couple of
years back will make in my vision test. Thankfully my distance vision has
thus remained 20/20 and except for the low-light small text presbyopia
thing,,, my near vision is quite good.


Yeah, my near-vision has gone completely to crap in the last few years.
I still don't wear bi-focals, but both my eye and medical doctors told
me that my days are, indeed, numbered.

I can't see diddly on a sectional anymore without holding it four
inches from my eyes. Can anyone recommend "progressive" bi-focals?
How about TRI-focals? Any benefit there?
--
I wear progressive TRI-focals and do not have any difficulty with the
constant shift of reading panel dials and outside scanning. The only
time I've had any discomfort is flying with foggles or under the hood.
After ten or fifteen minutes (as during a VFR review) I tend to get a
git nauseous(sp?). Don't know if that's a vision problem or an inner ear
problem. The good news is I have no intention of getting my instrument
rating.

On 11/12/05 6:04 PM, in article
, "Jose"
wrote:

such as trying to dead
horse head in the bed technique first?

That's a new technique to me. What website do =you= visit?

Jose

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On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 23:30:49 GMT, "Deane Judd"
wrote in : :


I use trifocals. Got them because I wanted to see the instrument panel for
IFR without having to twist my head from side-to-side (vertigo inducing) and
also see approach plates up close. I also spend a lot of time in front of a
large computer screen.

Two things make them work for me: 1) The middle lens is set to focus at
about 18" (~instrument panel and/or CRT distance), which I believe is a bit
non-standard, and 2) the middle lens is 10mm high, which is very
non-standard. They'll try to tell you that 7mm is all that is available, but
this is not true. Settle for nothing less than the 10mm height. That plus
insisting that the frames are adjusted perfectly so the left and right eyes
are always looking through the same near/middle/far lens makes them easy for
me to use and adjust to. The top of the middle lens appears about 10 degrees
below my horizon, which I find about right.

I agree completely. During instrument training, I found trifocals
necessary to deal with my nearsighted and farsightedness. I had the
optician make the middle segment 12mm high and position it so that the
top of it is higher than normal, positioned where the windshield and
control panel meet while I'm looking out the windshield normally. The
bottom segment is only used for reading the finest print on the chart
in dim illumination.

Jay,
My General Physician warned me that if my blood pressure went any lower
that he would have to put me on medication. he declared open season on Salt!
Michelle ;-)

Jay Honeck wrote:

Got the 3rd class medical renewed a coupla days ago.

Blood pressu NORMAL.

Yeah, baby -- and without meds! Whoo-hoo!

:-)

Jay Honeck wrote:

Can anyone recommend "progressive" bi-focals?

The best results I've gotten are from these. I've tried the type of bifocals
that have a small circular reading section. Hated them because I had to move my
head back and forth to read. I tried trifocals. These were fine during the day,
but one of the lines went right across the brake lights of cars in front of me
at night, unless I held my head perfectly (and uncomfortably) upright.

The type I have are called by a name similar to "natural", but, of course, I
don't recall what it is.

From your post, though, it seems that your normal vision is ok -- you just need
reading glasses. If this is correct, you might consider getting a pair of half
glasses. Look straight out or up for distance vision; down through the lenses to
read. An A&P I know has these and swears by them. These would be a *lot* cheaper
than progressives.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

Jose wrote:

Progressives have a blurry area right in the middle, ....

Mine do not. Basically, you can look at a picture about the height of your chin
on a wall 20' away, hold your head in an upright position, and walk towards the
picture. It will stay in focus all the way to the wall.

What they *do* have is blurred areas on the sides. There's a band of distance
vision across the top of the lens, but the band of clear vision narrows as you
go down the lens. Can't look at the girls out of the corner of your eyes. :-(

It's hard to be a dirty old man with progressive lenses.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

Sylvain wrote:

what did you do that worked?

Jay has this fruit diet that's a real winner. Eat as much fruit as you want all
day long except for supper. Eat anything you want for supper, but only fruit the
rest of the day.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.

You haven't seen "The Godfather"?

No. He made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

Jose
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