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Old October 26th 05, 02:33 AM
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
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Morgans wrote:
"Darrel Toepfer" wrote

"You fly it, you refuel it." We always had full tanks...


Yes, but that does not always work for all airplanes. For some, if you fill
all the tanks, you can carry two people and one handkerchief, but you can do
that for a long time! g




Relax. After an hour or two you'll be legal again.



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Old October 26th 05, 04:56 AM
George Patterson
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Darrel Toepfer wrote:

"You fly it, you refuel it." We always had full tanks...


Great. Do that in a Maule, and you'll never have full tanks (the vents will dump
about 5 gallons out of each if you top it off). If you have a tiedown with a bit
of a slope (I did at Old Bridge), you'll fuel up before flying. And you'll leave
an inch of air in the top of the tank. If you park on a slope with full tanks,
the uphill tank will cause the other to overflow and it'll be half full the next
time you want to fly.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.
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Old October 26th 05, 04:57 AM
Newps
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sfb wrote:

Old fashioned may be just that: old fashioned. The two problems are
debris breaking the windows and the wind literally pushing in the entire
window frame which is why plywood is anchored to the outside walls.
After Andrew in 1992, there were extensive upgrades to building codes
since what was thought to be sufficient wasn't. One example is a frame
attached to the inside walls under he wallboard to keep windows from
being pushed in by the wind and rain. After Charley in 2004, you could
spot developments build pre and post Andrew from the air.


Yep, my folks have a house in Naples. No need for plywood or shutters.
They have a film on the windows that will stop the flying debris.
Hard to believe it's better than the metal hurricane shutters that roll
down but they are. The houses built from the mid 90's on do not suffer
any real hurricane damage anymore, just the screening over the pool area
gets damaged.




"JohnH" wrote in message
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sfb wrote:

If you live in a hurricane area you have a problem with humidity and
mold. Most folks might not have inside storage with or without AC so
storing plywood at Home Depot may be the cheapest alternative.



Then what do you do with $400 worth of plywood?

It seems old fashoned storm shutters would be the way to go.




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Old October 26th 05, 04:59 AM
tony roberts
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I was responding, very specifically to the comment:
Take a look at your insurance policy. I've never seen that clause in
one of mine.


With the comment:
Nearly all insurance forms and shipping charter parties,
and most contracts, have a clause relating to nonliability in the case
of an act of God.


I have yet to see an insurance policy (other than Life) which did not
contain this clause.
It may be different in the USA - but in most of the world it is the rule
rather than the exception.

Tony
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In article .com,
"Doug" wrote:

Fortunately most of us do not rely on a dictionary to determine what is
covered and what is not covered by an insurance policy. Instead, we
rely on the wording of the insurance policy. Look at the exclusions. If
it is not excluded, it is usually covered. Certainly wind damage is
covered. Fire is as well. Floods as well, unless excluded (Flooding IS
excluded with HOUSEHOLD insurance). Biggest aviation fallacy I have
heard very often, usually quoted by someone who has never owned a plane
(like an instructor), is you aren't covered if you violate a FAR.
Nonsense. If you run a stop sign and run into a car with your car, do
you think your auto insurance does not pay? Almost no one has actually
read their insurance policy, and unless you read it, you will not know.

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Old October 27th 05, 01:48 AM
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Hilton wrote:
Hi,

Right now (1pm West Coast time) on cnn.com, there is a picture of numerous
overturned planes. Presumably insurance pays for this and since I pay for
insurance, should I feel a bit bummed that these owners didn't fly their
planes to safety and help lower my insurance costs? Taking it to the other
extreme, perhaps some owners wanted to upgrade from a 172 to a 182 (for
example) and... Sorry, I just don't get it.


I pay for insurance so I can abandon my plane to the elements if it's a
choice between life and property. Living near Boston a hurricane is a
possibility but nothing like the Gulf coast. Insurance rates should
reflect this. If it did happen and evacuating the plane was convenient,
I'd do it, but I wouldn't lose sleep over it.

Just out of curiosity I wonder how many planes are damaged by tornadoes
or severe thunderstorms every year.

-cwk.

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Old October 27th 05, 04:02 AM
Judah
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"Morgans" wrote in news:G2e7f.13583$xk2.4989
@fe06.lga:


"W P Dixon" wrote

Let's see I have 4 or 5 days notice. I have to spend most of one day
standing in line getting enough plywood to cover the house to try to

protect
that major investment..that by the way the entire family benefits from.


I don't buy it. You would only have to move the plane 60 miles or so.
There is time in there to move "that" major investment, also.


4 or 5 days before touchdown they don't know for certain where it's going
to hit with 60 mile accuracy!

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Old December 19th 05, 09:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
one person takes the car and bugs out early with the stuff that has to be moved.


I wouldn't let my wife bug out on her own. You never know what could
happen. She could get stuck in Texas type traffic, end up having to
sleep in the car on the freeway, etc. I'm not letting her do that just
to save the damn airplane.


How about taking the airplane with your wife? Car's insured too, no? Let
that sucker sit without the battery in it. You can get farther faster
with less hassle and surround yourself with people who are not refugees.
Cars are just a commodity, wherever else you go in the USA.

Five or six hundred miles in the right direction and you are in a
different, carefree world. Why not sip a little wine on a sunny veranda,
while contemplating with detachment all the work the poor insurance
adjusters are about to undertake on your behalf?


Jack
 




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