Seaplane down off Miami Beach....

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From: "Matt Whiting"
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Subject: Seaplane down off Miami Beach....
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--
Merry Christmas
Have a Safe and Happy New Year
Live Long and Prosper
Jim Macklin
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
| Matt Whiting wrote:
|
| Merry Christmas
| Have a Safe and Happy New Year
| Live Long and Prosper
| Jim Macklin
|
|
|
| Go **** yourself
|
|
| I've reported this impersonater to hotmail, but who knows
if they will
| do anything about it.
|
| Hopefully, anyone who has read my posts in the r.a.*
newsgroups over the
| years, knows that I don't use language like this.
|
| Matt

Jim Macklin wrote:

Here is the header info from the imposter...

Not needed. News readers, including Google's web based reader, all offer a
simple way to browse headers.

Note the places to report abuse is Google on the spoofed
post.

Why not go for the root of the problem and report the spoofing to his
dial-up ISP, given that he is in violation of a few of their TOS rules.
It's too easy to create another newsgroup posting ID on Google after the
original is closed.

Go he http://incident-report.level3.com/

or email his entire post and headers to he

--
Peter

Very true, just thought that some, including the impostor,
would like to see the info that is available to catch them.
He might even be in violation of Federal law and face some
time in prison.


--
Merry Christmas
Have a Safe and Happy New Year
Live Long and Prosper
Jim Macklin
"Peter R." wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
|
| Here is the header info from the imposter...
|
| Not needed. News readers, including Google's web based
reader, all offer a
| simple way to browse headers.
|
| Note the places to report abuse is Google on the spoofed
| post.
|
| Why not go for the root of the problem and report the
spoofing to his
| dial-up ISP, given that he is in violation of a few of
their TOS rules.
| It's too easy to create another newsgroup posting ID on
Google after the
| original is closed.
|
| Go he http://incident-report.level3.com/
|
| or email his entire post and headers to he

|
| --
| Peter

Matt

Center point refueling didn't shut off when tank was full and Ka-boom
went the wing.

Big John
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On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 03:14:07 GMT, Matt Whiting
wrote:

George Patterson wrote:

Jim Macklin wrote:

Reports I saws this morning said that the NTSB said they found a
fatigue crack in the main spar, maybe the conversion was not done well
or the maintenance was not though enough. I'll bet the fleet is
grounded and they require immediate, "before further flight" NDT
inspections of the wings, etc.


Chalk's has voluntarily grounded thier Mallards and is performing an
exhaustive test of the spars on one of them now. The NTSB rep voiced the
opinion that age alone would not be sufficient to cause this failure;
some additional stress would be required.

A pretty irresponsible statement for an NTSB person. Fatigue can cause
a stressed member to fail at a very low load, much less than even flight
loads. I seem to remember a picture of a Buff whose wing had failed on
the ground. It has been years and I don't remember the details, but it
seems like it was due to something fairly innocous such as refueling. I
believe fatigue was determined to be the root cause.


Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:

Hopefully, anyone who has read my posts in the r.a.* newsgroups over the
years, knows that I don't use language like this.

It *was* a bit surprising!

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

Peter R. wrote:

Looks like the fake MW is jeopardizing his dial-up Internet account. I
didn't think anyone in the US used dial-up anymore, what with cheap
broadband almost ubiquitous.

"Cheap" broadband costs twice what dial-up does. In addition, rural telcom
networks usually can't handle DSL and those same areas are likely to be outside
the cable service areas. That leaves satellite, which has it's own set of
problems (including the cost).

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

Peter R. wrote:

or email his entire post and headers to he

Does it help in these cases if several people complain?

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

George Patterson wrote:

"Cheap" broadband costs twice what dial-up does. In addition, rural telcom
networks usually can't handle DSL and those same areas are likely to be outside
the cable service areas. That leaves satellite, which has it's own set of
problems (including the cost).

Verizon DSL just dropped their ~760 KB/sec download speed to $14.95/month.
For those dial-up customers, including the fake MW out of the Virginia/DC
metro area, who live in a DSL-served area, there is now no excuse to remain
with dial up.

Verizon FiOS (fiber optic broadband, to which I just started subscribing)
is being rolled out nationwide. When it is complete, expect to see cable
broadband come down to remain competitive, since they really cannot raise
download speeds tremendously to compete. There was also a rumor that
Verizon FiOS will offer a 1 MB/s download speed for $9.99/month to grab
local dial-up customers.

Yes, I am aware that there are many out in the boonies that will never see
cable, DSL, or fiber broadband. My original comments were actually meant
as a dig only to the fake MW who thought he was being totally anonymous,
but I see that I could have worded it a little better.


--
Peter

I do hope that all those phishing letters I get weekly and
that I immediately report, with full headers
[properties-message source] to the appropriate ISP and
government agencies at least slow the flow.


To those who use bad language and try to insult me, I've got
a very thick skin and never take an insult personally.



--
Merry Christmas To ALL.
Have a Safe and Happy New Year
Live Long and Prosper
Jim Macklin
"Morgans" wrote in message
...
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:49Dqf.30336$QW2.5169@dukeread08...
| Very true, just thought that some, including the
impostor,
| would like to see the info that is available to catch
them.
| He might even be in violation of Federal law and face
some
| time in prison.
|
| Don't hold your breath, Jim. Internet jailings are few
and far in-between,
| and usually reserved for sex crimes.
|
| Shoot, we can't even keep murder convicts in jail for
their full terms.
| --
| Jim in NC
|

George Patterson wrote:

Peter R. wrote:

or email his entire post and headers to he

Does it help in these cases if several people complain?

Sure, why not join the party? Imagine what the fake MW's parents are
going to say when their little high-school aged boy costs them their
dial-up service.

--
Peter