The RV is a lot of work...

It's a lot of work to build and you wind up with a skittish little
plane with either a piece of **** Lycoming or a lot of kludge work to
accomodate better.

"Bret Ludwig" wrote:

It's a lot of work to build and you wind up with a skittish little
plane with either a piece of **** Lycoming or a lot of kludge work to
accomodate better.

I'm sure that for many people, some other plane better suits their
need than an RV. Obviously, for lots of people the RV is a good
choice. Sounds like you fall in the former group.

Just curious. What alternative is more attractive to you?

I know you are probably just trolling, but how about a serious answer?
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Bret Ludwig wrote:
It's a lot of work to build and you wind up with a skittish little
plane with either a piece of **** Lycoming or a lot of kludge work to
accomodate better.

Once again your stupidity shows!!!! YOU ARE NOT EVEN A GOOD TROLL.
You obviously don't have a clue what you are talking about. It is
obvious with your comment about an RV being skittish that you are
probably a lousy pilot as well as being ignorant. Why don't you
tell us how many hours stick time yo have in an RV? Of course you won't
tell us because you are a bitter little jealous person.

Jerry Springer wrote:
Bret Ludwig wrote:
It's a lot of work to build and you wind up with a skittish little
plane with either a piece of **** Lycoming or a lot of kludge work to
accomodate better.

Once again your stupidity shows!!!! YOU ARE NOT EVEN A GOOD TROLL.
You obviously don't have a clue what you are talking about. It is
obvious with your comment about an RV being skittish that you are
probably a lousy pilot as well as being ignorant. Why don't you
tell us how many hours stick time yo have in an RV? Of course you won't
tell us because you are a bitter little jealous person.

Bret Ludwig wrote:
Jerry Springer wrote:
Bret Ludwig wrote:
It's a lot of work to build and you wind up with a skittish little
plane with either a piece of **** Lycoming or a lot of kludge work to
accomodate better.

Once again your stupidity shows!!!! YOU ARE NOT EVEN A GOOD TROLL.
You obviously don't have a clue what you are talking about. It is
obvious with your comment about an RV being skittish that you are
probably a lousy pilot as well as being ignorant. Why don't you
tell us how many hours stick time yo have in an RV? Of course you won't
tell us because you are a bitter little jealous person.

I have only flown in one once: it was enough. Dick Van Grunsven TOLD
ME, personally, on the phone, 20 years ago (you could call him up then)
he builds a day VFR airplane and if you want a good stable instrument
platform you should buy a Bonanza like the one he has. I have no idea
if he still has a Bonanza, he probably has a King Air or Citation now
for all I know.

No I do not have a tape of the conversation: you will have to take my
word for it. Van Grunsven will probably confirm it: he's stubborn as a
son of a bitch, but he's honest. Most Dutchmen are.

Not everyone wants an RV! (I do lust after a T-6 though.)

"Lou" wrote in message
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Those who can, do,
Those who can't, bitch.

Even my wife got a laugh out of this one...

In article . com,
"Bret Ludwig" wrote:

I have only flown in one once: it was enough. Dick Van Grunsven TOLD
ME, personally, on the phone, 20 years ago (you could call him up then)
he builds a day VFR airplane and if you want a good stable instrument
platform you should buy a Bonanza like the one he has. I have no idea
if he still has a Bonanza, he probably has a King Air or Citation now
for all I know.

Van designed and built the RV-10 to replace the Bo. A lot has changed in
the 20 years since you last spoke with him.

Hi, Bret! Some of these guys can be pretty vicious. I have to agree
that these little planes are not the best instrument platforms. I fly
with two of my friends in their Mooneys and you can move all over
without the plane changing course. On my little Lancair, if I put my
hand forward on the instrument panel, it descends about 100-200 FPM, or
if I put my hand behind my head, it climbs 100-200 FPM. When I used to
fly J-3s, we flew around in the evenings with the doors tied open and
steered the plane with our hands held out into the airstream. If I want
to turn my Lancair, I lean one way or the other. Now that I have a
TRUTRAK with altitude hold, I can look all around the cockpit for maps
or drinks or such, and the plane stays on course. I spoke with an
80-something fellow a couple of weeks ago who was selling his Lancair
235. He said it was dangerous until he increased the horizontal stab
and elevator area. And this from a guy who raced a very highly-modified
Unlimited Bell KingCobra in the 1971 Reno Air Races, and had it crash
in the Pacific on a test flight in 1972! I love my Lyc 235! It's a good
rugged engine with reasonable fuel specifics. And you just plug it into
the motor mount and run it. 'Course if you like to experiment, Subbys
and Mazdas and V-6s can can tickle your experimenter bone! They can be
very frustrating, but if you succeed, very rewarding! Paul

In article ,
john smith wrote:

In article . com,
"Bret Ludwig" wrote:

I have only flown in one once: it was enough. Dick Van Grunsven TOLD
ME, personally, on the phone, 20 years ago (you could call him up then)
he builds a day VFR airplane and if you want a good stable instrument
platform you should buy a Bonanza like the one he has. I have no idea
if he still has a Bonanza, he probably has a King Air or Citation now
for all I know.

Van designed and built the RV-10 to replace the Bo. A lot has changed in
the 20 years since you last spoke with him.

The RV-8 is the most popular homebuilt here at Spruce Creek -- we have
about 20 flying and at least another 10 in process. BTW -- most of those
have airline or retired airline captains (including the former #1 bid at
United) for owners.

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