Why do jets leave a white trail behind them.

Gig 601XL Builder wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote:
How dare you promote the cover story that contrails are just water vapor and
exhaust. It is an operation by the CIA, FBI, NSA and Disney to poison us
all. You must be one of them.

OK I made up the Disney part, but you can read the TRUTH at the link below.

http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm

Personally, I believe it more from Disney than from the Govt. Acronyms.
I was working at JPL in the early 90s when an RFP came in from one of
the US military organizations. They wanted help defining/describing
an immersive training environment. As we were reading the RFP we
all said in unison "they want a holodeck..." (Just remember, JPL was
a 30 min drive from Paramount Studios, and some of the JPL folk were
"consultants" on Trek. And various incarnations of Trek filmed at
JPL facilities). Of course when Disney (or ILM) wants to do anything,
they just need budget approval from the board or else a signed check
from a customer. When JPL wants to do anything, it's a trip to
Congress.

So who do you think is going to build a working holodeck first?

Heard something earlier this week, that Steve Jobs will become the
single largest shareholder of Disney.

In a similar vein...I remember a great comment in a book from a number
of years ago mentioning the "Military-Industrial-Entertainment Complex".
Seems like it's getting closer and closer.

wrote:
Yeah, everyone knows Disney's mind control system is based in "It's a
Small World."

gads NO! You just *HAD* to mention that, didn't you? Now that stupid
song's going to be rattling around in my head for the next 3 days...

Blanche wrote

wrote:
Yeah, everyone knows Disney's mind control system is based in
"It's a Small World."

gads NO! You just *HAD* to mention that, didn't you? Now that
stupid song's going to be rattling around in my head for the
next 3 days...

You think that YOU have a problem.......

Shortly after Disney/Orlando opened about 1972, a young lady friend
and myself had the misfortune of being trapped in 'Small World' for
about an hour when the transport mechanism broke.

One solid hour of 'It's a Small World'. :-(

Bob Moore

"Blanche" wrote in message
...
Gig 601XL Builder wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote:
How dare you promote the cover story that contrails are just water vapor
and
exhaust. It is an operation by the CIA, FBI, NSA and Disney to poison us
all. You must be one of them.

OK I made up the Disney part, but you can read the TRUTH at the link
below.

http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm

Personally, I believe it more from Disney than from the Govt. Acronyms.
I was working at JPL in the early 90s when an RFP came in from one of
the US military organizations. They wanted help defining/describing
an immersive training environment. As we were reading the RFP we
all said in unison "they want a holodeck..." (Just remember, JPL was
a 30 min drive from Paramount Studios, and some of the JPL folk were
"consultants" on Trek. And various incarnations of Trek filmed at
JPL facilities). Of course when Disney (or ILM) wants to do anything,
they just need budget approval from the board or else a signed check
from a customer. When JPL wants to do anything, it's a trip to
Congress.

So who do you think is going to build a working holodeck first?

Heard something earlier this week, that Steve Jobs will become the
single largest shareholder of Disney.

In a similar vein...I remember a great comment in a book from a number
of years ago mentioning the "Military-Industrial-Entertainment Complex".
Seems like it's getting closer and closer.


You just won the Super Bowl, where you going next?

I'm going to Boot Camp!

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DW

"Mike Schumann" wrote

You guys really need a refresher course in chemistry.

So I was trying to explain it it terms of someone who did not have a working
knowlege of chemistry.

Also, normal fuel is NOT hydroscopic. Water and fuel don't mix. That's
why you drain it out of the sumps.

You need to re-read the early posts in context. We were talking about
contrails forming behind jets. Jets burn jet fuel, which is close to
kerosene or diesel fuel. It most definitely does mix with water, and is
correctly called hydroscopic.
--
Jim in NC

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
Morgans wrote:

To the other person that said there is not enough left over H to make
water with the O in the air, sorry, incorrect. Water and heat are two
byproducts of combustion. I wish I remembered enough chemistry to
balance the equation. No, I don't! g

I do remember enough to balance a simple reaction like this. All you need
to do is tell me which hydrocarbon you want to combust! I don't know the
formula for avgas. :-)

I took a real quick look at work today - somewheres near 16 to 25H, 8
to12C. Gasoline tends to the low end of the range, Jet fuel at the high end.
Both, of course, vary so you can pretty much pick what you want.

--
Geoff
the sea hawk at wow way d0t com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
Spell checking is left as an excercise for the reader.

"Bob Moore" wrote

Shortly after Disney/Orlando opened about 1972, a young lady friend
and myself had the misfortune of being trapped in 'Small World' for
about an hour when the transport mechanism broke.

One solid hour of 'It's a Small World'. :-(

I felt physically ill, when you mentioned this. Intensive counseling no
doubt followed, for this pour soul.

Oh, the humanity! g
--
Jim in NC

Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe wrote:

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...

Morgans wrote:


To the other person that said there is not enough left over H to make
water with the O in the air, sorry, incorrect. Water and heat are two
byproducts of combustion. I wish I remembered enough chemistry to
balance the equation. No, I don't! g

I do remember enough to balance a simple reaction like this. All you need
to do is tell me which hydrocarbon you want to combust! I don't know the
formula for avgas. :-)


I took a real quick look at work today - somewheres near 16 to 25H, 8
to12C. Gasoline tends to the low end of the range, Jet fuel at the high end.
Both, of course, vary so you can pretty much pick what you want.

Well, someone already beat me to the punch with an algebraic solution
that will handle any HC compound. :-)


Matt

Morgans wrote:


"Mike Schumann" wrote

You guys really need a refresher course in chemistry.


So I was trying to explain it it terms of someone who did not have a
working knowlege of chemistry.

Also, normal fuel is NOT hydroscopic. Water and fuel don't mix.
That's why you drain it out of the sumps.


You need to re-read the early posts in context. We were talking about
contrails forming behind jets. Jets burn jet fuel, which is close to
kerosene or diesel fuel. It most definitely does mix with water, and is
correctly called hydroscopic.

Are you sure?

http://www.photonics.com/dictionary/.../QX/lookup.htm


Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote

Are you sure?

http://www.photonics.com/dictionary/.../QX/lookup.htm
\
Don't confuse the issue with facts! ;-)

Drop the d, add a g. I think that was I originally said, earlier. I don't
know, now.

At any rate, diesel, kerosene and jet A all absorb water, not leaving it in
the bottom of the tank, separately. Go with that concept! g
--
Jim in NC