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Old January 22nd 06, 03:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I'm wondering if there's a simple or straightforward way to test an SLA
battery for general condition. Or a device I can buy that sucks a
charge out of a battery over a few hours and reports its actual
amp-hour capacity?

~ted/2NO

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Old January 22nd 06, 03:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Google ELK and battery tester. Elk makes one that measures the internal
conductance of the battery in mhoes. My company uses them to test customer's
batteries with good results (alarm company).

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I'm wondering if there's a simple or straightforward way to test an SLA
battery for general condition. Or a device I can buy that sucks a
charge out of a battery over a few hours and reports its actual
amp-hour capacity?

~ted/2NO



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Old January 22nd 06, 04:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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The cheapest way to measure the battery health is to put a load similar to
what you will be using and time how long the voltage is adequate to operate
your equipment. you do not have to be a techie to do this - just a simple
understanding of ohms law.

Depending upon the size of the battery and the battery current you wish to
draw, an example that we will use would be a Radio Shack 20 watt, 8 ohm
resistor catalog number 271-120. Current draw is calculated by using ohms
law: I (current in amperes+ = E (voltage) / R (resistance). In our example,
I = 12 / 8 = 1.5 amps. Power consumed would be P = EI = 12 x 1.5 = 18
watts. That means the load resistor will get hot under test, so keep it
away from things that will melt. Make sure there is good circulation around
it.

Take a cheap digital voltmeter (expensive ones will work) and monitor the
voltage from time to time. Be sure to note the time you start the test.
Stop the test when the voltage gets down to the lowest voltage you can use
in your aircraft.

Let us say you start the test and 4 hours later the voltage gets down to
10.25 volts and you terminate the test. You will have drawn 6 amps out, so
you now have a 6 amp battery. Often batteries are rated to go down to a
lower voltage than you wish to operate them at, so the new amp rating may
not be as much as advertised.

If you are really cheap, you can use an automobile headlamp or taillamp and
hang it on the battery and just watch how long it stays bright. You will
have to know how much current is drawn, which you can sometimes look up in a
database, or measure with an ammeter.

When doing tests like this, a little math gets you a long ways. This is a
somewhat simplified explanation, since the actual current drawn depends upon
the voltage and as the voltage drops down, the current draw will decrease -
but that is the same thing that will happen in your aircraft.

Colin N12HS



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Old January 22nd 06, 04:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I did a lot of battery testing years ago. My PC was set up to sample
and plot voltage and current as the battery discharged into a resitive
load. It was easy to see a battery was good. It was easy to see a
battery was bad. It did not help me predict when a good battery would
become a bad one.

Try searching this group, it's been discussed before.


Andy

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Old January 22nd 06, 04:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Atthough I mentioned a simplified method of battery test, once you
understand the procedure, you can measure the battery voltage under load and
after the initial few seconds, you can plot the discharge voltage vs time.
So, if in five minutes, the voltage drops .03 volts, we know the voltage
drop is linear, so in 60 minutes the voltage will drop 12 x .03 or .36
volts.

As Andy mentioned, it can be computerized.

Interestingly, the ability to hold a charge also means the resistance to
change. So, if you see a battery on the shelf and put a charger to it and
the voltage soars instantly to full voltage, it is bad.

Once you understand what is happening, you can usually tell if a battery is
good within a few seconds, and know the projected life in a minute or less -
all with minimum equipment. A lttle knowledge gets you a long way. In
fact, you can often hang a auto lamp across the battery with a digital
voltmeter and watch the voltage drop. The less drop, the better the
battery.

Colin


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Old January 22nd 06, 10:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I have had been very happy with the CBAII computerized battery analyzer
from Westmountainradio.com. Click the RC Model Products button on the
left of the page.

It runs abou $100 and hooks to a PC to plot discharge curves.

They also offer the whatthour meter which provides load information.

More expensive solutions than some others suggested here, but very
convenient and easy to use.

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Old January 23rd 06, 01:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
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In fact, you can often hang a auto lamp across the battery with a digital
voltmeter and watch the voltage drop. The less drop, the better the battery.


That is exactly how I have been doing it for years, and I have never found
a need for anything more fancy. For small gel cells, (as are used in gliders) I
use a digital voltmeter and a 50-watt sealed beam light. For larger batteries,
I use a commercial load tester that you can buy at NAPA or any similar auto
parts store for about $50.00 US.

Vaughn


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Old January 23rd 06, 02:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Vaughn wrote:
"COLIN LAMB" wrote in message
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In fact, you can often hang a auto lamp across the battery with a digital
voltmeter and watch the voltage drop. The less drop, the better the battery.



That is exactly how I have been doing it for years, and I have never found
a need for anything more fancy. For small gel cells, (as are used in gliders) I
use a digital voltmeter and a 50-watt sealed beam light. For larger batteries,
I use a commercial load tester that you can buy at NAPA or any similar auto
parts store for about $50.00 US.


It sounds like you are effectively doing an internal resistance
measurement. Do you have chart of volt drop, load, and good/ok/bad
decision for various size batteries? I've not seen that sort of thing in
battery data sheets, so I assume you have to develop the numbers
empirically.


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