My home airport had a crash this morning

I did my flight training out of this airport. As such, many landings and
lots of time at this facility. Not much details yet. The west end of the
runway is typically the departure end. Maybe landed long... Who knows.

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Plane crashes at McClellan-Palomar Airport

By: Associated Press Wire Reports

A small plane crashed and burst into flames at McClellan-Palomar Airport
Tuesday morning, officials said.

The plane skidded off the west end of the runway at 6:39 a.m., said Bill
Polick, spokesman for the San Diego County Department of Public Works.
Television footage showed bright orange flames billowing from the aircraft,
which appeared to have hit a building.

North County Times circulation manager Henry Alcocer said he saw the huge
explosion.


"It was higher than the tower out there," Alcocer said "I called 911 and
they said they had other calls... they got out here in about three
minutes."

There was no immediate word on casualties, Polick said. The plane that
crashed was a small private plane or business jet, he said.

Crews from the airport and Carlsbad fire departments were on scene, he
said.

The airport 30 miles north of San Diego serves private planes, business
jets and two commuter airlines -- America West Express and United Express,
both of which operate turboprops out of the facility, Polick said.

A temporary flight restriction was in place over the airport, according to
KFMB-TV.

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Mike Flyin'8
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
http://flying.4alexanders.com

Wow, hope all're OK.

"Flyingmonk" wrote:
Wow, hope all're OK.

Sadly no:

"4 Killed in Small Plane Crash in Calif.":
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060124/...if_plane_crash

cynic mode
Gee, I guess this is more bad press for Cirrus. Oh wait - it's not a
Cirrus? Then why post it?
/cynic mode

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:41:24 -0000, Jim Logajan
wrote in ::


"4 Killed in Small Plane Crash in Calif.":
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060124/...if_plane_crash

The jet-engined Cessna 560 was landing at McClellan-Palomar
Airport on a flight from Hailey, Idaho, when it skidded off the
end of a runway at about 6:40 a.m., said Mike Fergus, a
Federal Aviation Administration spokesman in Seattle.

It hit a shack that held the airport's instrument landing system
equipment, Fergus said.

What is a Cessna 560? Is it a Cessna 560 Citation Ultra Encore* or a
Cessna 560 Citation V?

Cessna claims their Citation Encore + to have a Landing Distance of
2,770 ft.** And the length of Mc Clellan-Palomar Airport's Runway
6/24 is 4,897'.*** So other than the VOLUNTARY JET CURFEW 2200-0700,
one would expect the landing to have been uneventful.

The only thing remarkable about the weather at the time****:

Date Time T DP RH Wind Vis Pres Alt Sta QC
24 Jan 6:50 am 57 15 19 ENE 7 10.00 CLR 1013.3 29.93 29.586 OK
24 Jan 5:50 am 50 18 27 E 6 10.00 CLR 1012.8 29.91 29.566 OK
24 Jan 4:50 am 56 15 20 E 3 10.00 CLR 1012.2 29.90 29.556 OK

is the offshore wind direction. The news report does not include
information about the runway the flight was using, and the FAA
preliminary data hasn't been updated yet*****.

The 10News.com video report****** mentions that the crash occurred at
the west end of the runway. This report also mentions:

Witnesses said the plane appeared to be traveling faster than
normal as it approached the general aviation airport in Carlsbad

That is confirmed in the NEWS 8 report*******.


* http://encoreplus.cessna.com/

** http://encoreplus.cessna.com/specifications.chtml

*** http://www.airnav.com/airport/KCRQ

****
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesonet/geto...=48&banner=off

*****
http://www.faa.gov/data_statistics/a...liminary_data/

****** http://www.10news.com/news/6398187/detail.html

******* http://www.kfmb.com/stories/story.35912.html

("Larry Dighera" wrote)
What is a Cessna 560? Is it a Cessna 560 Citation Ultra Encore* or a
Cessna 560 Citation V?


http://www.airliners.net/info/stats.main?id=161

My gal has been a passenger in a 1998 Cessna 560XL (Citation Excel)


Montblack

"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
...
"Flyingmonk" wrote:
Wow, hope all're OK.

Sadly no:

"4 Killed in Small Plane Crash in Calif.":
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060124/...if_plane_crash

cynic mode
Gee, I guess this is more bad press for Cirrus. Oh wait - it's not a
Cirrus? Then why post it?
/cynic mode

Article says the gear was up and it was very fast on approach, very strange.

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DW

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:36:20 -0500, "Darkwing"
theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in
: :


"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. .

"4 Killed in Small Plane Crash in Calif.":
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060124/...if_plane_crash


Article says the gear was up and it was very fast on approach, very strange.


From these 12 photographs, it's difficult to see if the thrust
reversers had been deployed:
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/even...NlYwNzc25hdg--

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:36:20 -0500, "Darkwing"
theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in
: :


"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
. ..

"4 Killed in Small Plane Crash in Calif.":
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060124/...if_plane_crash


Article says the gear was up and it was very fast on approach, very
strange.


From these 12 photographs, it's difficult to see if the thrust
reversers had been deployed:
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/even...BHNlYwNzc25hdg
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Holy ****! Did you see Photo 8? Did that plane crash down the side of that
hill? It looks like it went through that fence up top. Terrible, that plane
is just destroyed.

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DW

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Ron Lee

Ron Lee wrote:
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Ron Lee


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