Plane for the kids

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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Hope he didn't solo you or ever sign your logbook. But if
all he did was let you fly while he was in the plane, that
is legal.

Really? No one signed his logbook. He didn't need anyone's okay to solo.
Tailwheel endorsements are a relatively new idea.

Deb

--
1946 Luscombe 8A (his)
1948 Luscombe 8E (hers)
1954 Cessna 195B, restoring (ours)

Agree on the wife thing.... I've already figured out that I'll never teach
her to fly. I may be able to help her now and then, but only if she comes
to me with questions seeking explainations, then she's open to listening to
me explain something. She'll do that now with her accounting classes but I
know better than to butt in without her asking.

Jim

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'm proud to say that he pays perfect attention, asks serious
questions, and enjoys it.

I agree. I teach my kids things everyday. Right now I"m teaching them
how to properly fire and use their BB rifle. They think its awesome to
learn from dad. I taught my boys baseball, basketball, football, etc.
I'm proud to say they are very good at all now and compete in leagues.
Some people send their kids to day care, etc to teach them things.
Others are very comfortable teaching kids all they need to know
themselves. I honestly don't see any problem teaching them to fly. I'm
offering them a plane and my time for free. If they decided they wanted
someone else to teach them, they'll have to work extra shifts at the
McD's.
No, if it were my wife, it would be a very different story. I still
can't make her understand that there is a middle ground between rolling
through a stop sign and sitting for 30 seconds at the sign. I just
sit quite and think of something else.

-Robert, CFI

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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Hope he didn't solo you or ever sign your logbook. But if
all he did was let you fly while he was in the plane, that
is legal.

Anyone can sign anybodys log book. Some people have passengers sign just so
they can look back to see who they have flown with. What's the big deal? I
see nothing to prevent a non CFI from instructing, indicating so in the
students log book and signing it. The times don't count toward any
instruction required for ratings but other than that what's the problem?


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

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"Deborah McFarland" wrote in
message ...
| Robert,
|
| My husband taught me to fly his Luscombe, and he's not a
CFI. It wasn't a
| big deal. I think it depends on the relationship.
|
| Other folks have mentioned insurance as an issue. That
wasn't a big deal
| with us, either. Buy the airplane that you, as the CFI,
have the most
| time-in-type in. That will keep your costs down. Try
| http://www.auaonline.com/ for the best vintage rates.
|
| Folks on our Luscombe List use their airplanes for
"personal" primary
| training all the time. It has been our experience that the
high costs come
| into play when tailwheel aircraft are rented out for
commercial use.
|
| Have fun!
| Deb
| --
| 1946 Luscombe 8A (his)
| 1948 Luscombe 8E (hers)
| 1954 Cessna 195B, restoring (ours)
|
|

Ask your local FAA Inspector... I see no problem with having
a passenger put their name in a book as a passenger, but by
law (FAR) only an authorized instructor may endorse (sign)
for instruction given.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
. com...
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:lLvBf.69412$QW2.28094@dukeread08...
| Hope he didn't solo you or ever sign your logbook. But
if
| all he did was let you fly while he was in the plane,
that
| is legal.
|
| Anyone can sign anybodys log book. Some people have
passengers sign just so
| they can look back to see who they have flown with.
What's the big deal? I
| see nothing to prevent a non CFI from instructing,
indicating so in the
| students log book and signing it. The times don't count
toward any
| instruction required for ratings but other than that
what's the problem?
|
|
| --
| James H. Macklin
| ATP,CFI,A&P
|
| --
| The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| some support
| http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and
duties.
|
|
| "Deborah McFarland" wrote in
| message ...
| | Robert,
| |
| | My husband taught me to fly his Luscombe, and he's not
a
| CFI. It wasn't a
| | big deal. I think it depends on the relationship.
| |
| | Other folks have mentioned insurance as an issue. That
| wasn't a big deal
| | with us, either. Buy the airplane that you, as the
CFI,
| have the most
| | time-in-type in. That will keep your costs down. Try
| | http://www.auaonline.com/ for the best vintage rates.
| |
| | Folks on our Luscombe List use their airplanes for
| "personal" primary
| | training all the time. It has been our experience that
the
| high costs come
| | into play when tailwheel aircraft are rented out for
| commercial use.
| |
| | Have fun!
| | Deb
| | --
| | 1946 Luscombe 8A (his)
| | 1948 Luscombe 8E (hers)
| | 1954 Cessna 195B, restoring (ours)
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

We needed a flap for our Aztec. I called a guy that is in the business of
rebuilding flaps and ailerons. A used/rebuilt/newly skinned Aztec flap runs
$2800, plus a $250 deposit on the shipping crate. He offered us $1000 for
our wrecked flap. We found a used flap from Wentworth in like new condition
for $1200, that was the best price we could find.
Jim

"Newps" wrote in message
. ..


Robert M. Gary wrote:

IF, you could actually find an insurance company willing to insure a
tailweel plane for a student solo


Since we're not talking about a lot of money, I may just insure it for
liability. If the boys crash the plane, oh-well, it wasn't an enourmous
amount of money to begin with. Besides, it never, ever stops amazing me
how much wrecked airplanes go for. I saw a flap off a Bonanza go for
almost $500.


That's because they are over $3K new.

Are you saying once you start you can't turn off???

Big John
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:48:54 GMT, "Grumman-581"
wrote:

"Rachel" wrote in message
...
Of course, another moot point, since I
don't want kids.

Yeah, you say that now, but wait a few years until the biological clock
starts ticking and then it'll be, "Weeeelllll, I juuuuuussssttttt want
ooonnnnneee..."

Been there, done that, stuck with the result...

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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Ask your local FAA Inspector... I see no problem with having
a passenger put their name in a book as a passenger, but by
law (FAR) only an authorized instructor may endorse (sign)
for instruction given.

Wrong. By *regulation* (FAR), only an authorized instructor may endorse for
instruction given *and used for the purpose of meeting the requirements of
the regulation (FAR)*.

Anyone can sign anything they want. Most things require a CFI if you want
the endorsement to be useful for the purpose of meeting the requirements of
the FARs, but that doesn't mean someone who isn't a CFI can't sign a
logbook.

Pete

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
...
"Deborah McFarland" wrote in message
...
Robert,

My husband taught me to fly his Luscombe, and he's not a CFI. It wasn't a
big deal. I think it depends on the relationship.

You've brought up a good point here... There are two things involved in
getting a license -- actually learning to fly and fulfilling the actual
FAA
requirements... I sometimes let my daughter 'fly' my plane... She's only
12
now, but someday she might even progress to the point of doing a takeoff
and
a landing... For now, she's happy enough to just be able to fly straight
and
level... Of course, I'm using the term 'straight and level' rather
loosely... At some point, I'll turn her over to a CFI to let her get her
license, but if I've done it right, she should be able to solo pretty damn
close to immediately...


Bingo. According to my log book, I soloed after about 1.5 hours of dual.

In a taildragger.

I'm not THAT good...

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"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" wrote in message
.. .
Bingo. According to my log book, I soloed after about 1.5 hours of dual.

In a taildragger.

I'm not THAT good...

Yep, I'm using the same technique for SCUBA... First she goes diving with me
and I teach her how to dive... Then, when she's old enough, she gets
rubberstamped by the certification agency... Hell, I dove for over 20 years
before I finally "got official" and was rubberstamped with a C-card...

Some people might bring up the issue of the person not getting credit for
all the hours that they had flown this way, but I don't see it as that big
of a deal as long as the person is not renting a plane... Wether the person
is working on the license or just flying for fun, they would probably be
doing the flights anyway... The main thing that it prevents is the carrying
of passengers... Not that big of a deal for 40 hours... Hell, we need people
doing it this way so that the average hours until solo (or PPL) will go
down... grin

Robert M. Gary wrote:
My kids have flown around in my Mooney their entire lives. Now they are
getting close to the teen years and I'm thinking of buying them a plane
and teaching them to fly in it. I've got a few years before they are
old enough but I'm starting to think about it. Some group suggestions
would be appreciated.


Don't worry about it. Uncle Sam will loan them a T-38. You've probably
paid for one by now, anyway. Just tell 'em to stay in school and go USAF.


Jack