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Can a Plane on a Treadmill Take Off?



 
 
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Old February 6th 06, 05:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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Who's on first? Third base!

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Old February 6th 06, 05:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"cjcampbell" wrote in message
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Still, it seems counterintuitive to me that if a plane is
sitting on a conveyer that is moving backwards at exactly the same
speed (I assume they mean groundspeed here) as the airplane is moving
forward that the airplane will move forward at the same speed as if it
was not on a conveyer at all.


Why does the conveyor belt speed have anything to do with the airspeed of
the airplane?

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Old February 6th 06, 06:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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CJ, please let us know when the light bulb finally goes on.

"cjcampbell" wrote

Still, it seems counterintuitive to me that if a plane is
sitting on a conveyer that is moving backwards at exactly the same
speed (I assume they mean groundspeed here) as the airplane is moving
forward that the airplane will move forward at the same speed as if it
was not on a conveyer at all.



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Old February 6th 06, 10:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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Happy Dog wrote:
"cjcampbell" wrote in message

Still, it seems counterintuitive to me that if a plane is
sitting on a conveyer that is moving backwards at exactly the same
speed (I assume they mean groundspeed here) as the airplane is moving
forward that the airplane will move forward at the same speed as if it
was not on a conveyer at all.


Then you may not be ready for this:

http://www.mste.uiuc.edu/reese/monty/monty.htm


Now I have a headache. And they call me a troll and a Nazi. :-)

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Old February 6th 06, 10:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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Jon Woellhaf wrote:
CJ, please let us know when the light bulb finally goes on.


I am not a real fast learner, but I have some reputation, possibly
undeserved, for intelligence. The lightbulb will probably go on in the
middle of the night. Serves me right for even bringing it up. :-)

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Old February 6th 06, 11:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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It WILL take off normally.
The propeller works in the air, not on the ground.
The only problem can be in the tires, that may blow up going twice as
fast as the normal takeoff speed, but i doubt that can happen.

It will surely take off, though.

Piero

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Old February 6th 06, 03:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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On 3 Feb 2006 18:27:39 -0800, "cjcampbell"
wrote:

Saw this question on "The Straight Dope" and I thought it was amusing.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/060203.html

The question goes like this:

"An airplane on a runway sits on a conveyer belt that moves in the
opposite direction at exactly the speed that the airplane is moving
forward. Does the airplane take off?" (Assuming the tires hold out, of
course.)

Cecil Adams (world's smartest human being) says that it will take off
normally.

OK you got me thinking, I presently have a work crew making conveyor
so will give a full report soon.

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Daveb
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Old February 6th 06, 05:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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("Michael Ware" wrote)
It would be fun to see this worked out on 'Mythbusters'.



How would wiring a treadmill up to explode solve anything? g


Montblack
It blow'd up. It blow'd up real good.
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Old February 6th 06, 06:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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On 3 Feb 2006 18:27:39 -0800, "cjcampbell"
wrote:

Saw this question on "The Straight Dope" and I thought it was amusing.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/060203.html

The question goes like this:

"An airplane on a runway sits on a conveyer belt that moves in the
opposite direction at exactly the speed that the airplane is moving
forward. Does the airplane take off?" (Assuming the tires hold out, of
course.)

Cecil Adams (world's smartest human being) says that it will take off
normally.


No it won't.

And I'm surprised that I'm even responding to this.

Mike Weller



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Old February 6th 06, 06:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mike Weller" wrote

Cecil Adams (world's smartest human being) says that it will take off
normally.


No it won't.

And I'm surprised that I'm even responding to this.

Mike Weller


And yet another hapless soul falls into the trap! :)

BDS


 




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