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Old February 8th 06, 09:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Stubby" wrote

I agree. And none of us really want to hear your pain, unhappiness,
inconvenience, etc. Try to be a professional and handle the situation as
you have been taught.


I don't see the harm in adding just one more word in the previously
suggested transmission such as:

Your Location Traffic, NXYZ is going around due to ^"unexpected"^ departing
traffic on Runway **, will fly an upwind on the Right side of Runway **."


It would constructively point out to the departing plane that he/she had
done a poor job of scanning for traffic on short final, and might save an
incident at some later date.
--
Jim in NC


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Old February 8th 06, 10:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Chris G. wrote:
Sorry, I don't fly over the same runway when another aircraft could be
right below me, or that I could run into it. ATC would be quite okay
with you sidestepping.


ATC is usually not ok with you doing something unless they've told you
to do it or they know you're going to do it.
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Old February 8th 06, 10:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Morgans wrote:

"Stubby" wrote

I agree. And none of us really want to hear your pain, unhappiness,
inconvenience, etc. Try to be a professional and handle the situation
as you have been taught.



I don't see the harm in adding just one more word in the previously
suggested transmission such as:

Your Location Traffic, NXYZ is going around due to ^"unexpected"^ departing
traffic on Runway **, will fly an upwind on the Right side of Runway **."


It would constructively point out to the departing plane that he/she had
done a poor job of scanning for traffic on short final, and might save
an incident at some later date.


LOL....I can't believe some people think it's impossible to sound
professional AND annoyed by an idiot in the same tone.
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Old February 8th 06, 10:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Keep the fool in sight and stay out of his way. ATC is on the ground,
you are in the air inside a whole lot of expensive hardware.

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Old February 8th 06, 11:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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What would you do in the following situtation:

You are approaching a non towered field, communicate right and all that
stuff, your on final, suddenly a cessna pulls up and starts it's take
off roll.


I'd just do this g

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The Monk

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Old February 8th 06, 11:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Rachel" wrote in message
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Chris G. wrote:
Sorry, I don't fly over the same runway when another aircraft could be
right below me, or that I could run into it. ATC would be quite okay
with you sidestepping.


ATC is usually not ok with you doing something unless they've told you to
do it or they know you're going to do it.


True, but ATC isn't likely to suffer the ultimate price should there be a
mid-air collision. I'm announcing intentions and keeping the rogue aircraft
in sight. If ATC has a problem with that, we can sort it out later.

KB



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Old February 8th 06, 11:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Nik wrote:
What would you do in the following situtation:

You are approaching a non towered field, communicate right and all that
stuff, your on final, suddenly a cessna pulls up and starts it's take
off roll.


How much room will there be as the Cessna rolls down the runway? If he
leaves me about 1000 feet I'm landing.

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Old February 9th 06, 12:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I was rather on the OTHER side of that once, as a solo student.

Class D airport got real busy for a while; there were several lined up
for takeoff, and quite a number in the pattern, including several on
long final.

I was told to take position and hold, which I did. I was not overly
comfortable with this, because incoming traffic was behind me, which I
thought was getting sorta close. I was cleared to take off, and
started rolling. Another aircraft shortly radioed that he was going
around. I wasn't sure what to do, but continued the takeoff. My
reasoning on-the-spot was that I could continue to fit in. I spotted
the go-around traffic high and to my right, and kept him glued in my in
sight until I lifted off, and watched him pull away as I accelerated
and slowly climbed. It all worked, but I'm not sure that it was the
BEST way. I believe the controller was in error by telling me to roll
while someone was that close on final (duh).

Thinking back, taking position and hold doesn't mean I have to be
pointed down the runway. If it's that busy, perhaps I can be in
postion but pointed sideways, so I can see the approaching traffic.
Dunno, might work.

AS for the original situation, I'd sidestep right and keep traffic in
sight. If there was another parallel runway, I'd make the sidestep
pretty narrow, and maybe even slip to lower my wing and keep the other
traffic IN SIGHT.

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Old February 9th 06, 12:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Well I would do the following....
Aviate...Slip to the right side or the runway.... Full
throttle....establish airspeed and start climbout... and KEEP offending
plane in site... once plane is settled into that I would then
Communicate...Let ATC that I was making missed approach and listen for
instructions... or if at a non tower field I woujld annnounce via raido
my intentions
Then come around as instructed to try again...

Newps wrote:
Nik wrote:
What would you do in the following situtation:

You are approaching a non towered field, communicate right and all that
stuff, your on final, suddenly a cessna pulls up and starts it's take
off roll.


How much room will there be as the Cessna rolls down the runway? If he
leaves me about 1000 feet I'm landing.


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Old February 9th 06, 12:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Newps "wrote:

How much room will there be as the Cessna rolls down the runway? If he
leaves me about 1000 feet I'm landing.


What if the Cessna rolls a bit and aborts? Mechanical problem. Forgot his
Jepps.

Fred F.

 




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