Even during sentencing, this guy is an a*hole

("Dave in Columbus" wrote)
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This one time, at band camp, I was riding late at night and.....


That's a very funny LINE. g


Montblack
Seriously, good stuff Dave. :-)

"Morgans" wrote in
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"Skywise" wrote

Actually, I think what it is, is that 99% of people would just shrug
their shoulders at such stuff and never think another thought about
it. I just happen to give a $&!^ about what goes on in my world
more than most (or so it seems at times). Perhaps I have an overly
developed sense of right & wrong & justice?

It sounds all normal {I think g} to me. I would likely react the same
way...

A few years ago, I had a strange encounter, that had me playing the
citizen cop.

Snipola of great story

That reminds me of something I totally forgot about.

A place I lived once, I was only 3 houses down from the corner.
The main drag was very heavy, and the neighborhood had a frontage
road. Anyway, there was an accident right there and several of us
went out to investigate. Some girl in a car had hit the corner
curb. We thought she just lost control. Nope. Some guy hit her
and ran. Turns out he went into the neighborhood where there were
only two ways out - back to the accident scene, or another road.
So with the description in hand, I ran home and jumped in my car
thinking I could cut him off at the pass, at least maybe get a
license plate or the house he went to. Long story short, I never
did find the car. I suspect it went into a garage and hid. But
when I came back the accident scene, the cop there began to chew
me out, saying I was endangering lives running around the
neighborhood at 65 MPH like that and this-that-and-the-other and
that they didn't need to be hunting down two cars, etc...

Well, first of all, I was doing maybe 40 tops. The streets just
weren't long enough to get that fast and brake in time. Besides,
how could I look for the car at such high speed? And second, he
was the only responding officer. No other cops around looking for
the guy. I do not know what happened to the case, but it left me
with a very sour taste in my mouth. I felt that I was just trying
to do the right thing. I saw an opportunity and took it. Time was
of the essence and I had the advantage of knowing the neighborhood
and the suspects only way out. I knew that by the time the cops
arrived, he could be miles away. And what did I get for my
troubles? A lecture from a cop that didn't even know what the hell
was going on. I knew more of what was going on than he did.

A badge does not automatically garner respect in my book. They
are human beings, and they ARE NOT above the law, no matter what
anybody tells you. They are citizens, not gods. They have to earn
my respect just like everybody else does. A few have, but most I
find have attitudes and power tripping ego's.

Which reminds me of another story. I and fellow employees observed
a shoplifter adn when the cops arrived, they gave US the third
degree and attitude of wht WE did wrong. I was so mad I walked
away. They tried to get more from me and I refused. Later, an
investigator called the store and wanted my statement. I again
refused, relayed the story of the attitude of the cop, and that
for that reason alone I'd hope the perp got away. The other
employee, who was talked to the officer seperate from me, and I
did not witness it, later said she had a problem with that cop
too.

Geez...this is sad...I just remembered another incident.

There was an accident across the street from where I live. I
went out with my big mag light (it was night). Everyone was OK
and the police were called. Since the cars were in the street, I
used my flashlight to get cars attention and direct them around
the accident. Well, this one car was coming, and fast, and right
towards the accident. I pointed my mag right at the driver and
flashed it. They kept coming. So I get out of the way thinking
there's gonna be a big bang. It was a cop slamming on his brakes
at the last minute!!! I laid into him for that one. I told him he
should have flipped his lights on so I knew it was him. I later
called the watch commander to complain. He actually hung up on me!
Then I did something very rash, I called them back and told the
answering officer what his watch commander could go do with himself.

Yeah...maybe I am hexed...I have seen, at a guess, a bad cop to
good cop ratio of maybe 6:1. Yes, I have encountered very nice and
courteous officers, and I let them know it too. But they have been
few and far between.

Lately, when I've seen something suspicious, I really have to
force myself to call it in. I actually start wondering how they're
going to turn it all around on me. Seems the criminal has more
rights than the good citizen trying to do the right thing.

Ah geez....another one...drunk driver...tapped into me at red light.
Short story...cops MUST witness it. If they went to the guys house
and he denies it, even if he's falling down drunk...end of story.
If I pressed charges (or citizen arrested), I was told flat out I'd
be opening myself up to a "violation of civil rights" law suit. This
was an instance where the cops were VERY VERY nice. I learned a lot
about the law that night.

Ughhh...now I'm depressed...this planet sucks...

Brian
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Dave in Columbus wrote in
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Snipola

This one time, at band camp, I was riding late at night and.....

hahahah...good one...

Brian
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OK....I think I've made my point. Enough story telling.

Sometimes it works in your favor. One night quite late I ran out of gas on
a highway exit ramp. I proceed on foot and notice a police car sitting in a
field. I walk over and ask him where the nearest gas station was as I had
just run out of gas. "Hop in!" he said, and drove me to the nearest gas
station. I put a deposit on a gas can and put 5 gallons in the can and put
it in the cruiser trunk. On the way back to my van, he says "I'm on
vacation in 2 hours, I can't wait!" then proceeds to turn left at a red
light with a no left turn sign. He goes up the ramp the wrong way (no cop
lights) and drops me off. "Thanks!" I say as he speeds backwards down the
ramp. It was all rather funny.

Ughhh...now I'm depressed...this planet sucks...

Apparently only the part of it you occupy, Brian. ;-)

In 47 years on this planet, in two states, a dozen cities, three businesses,
and a couple of dozen jobs, I've never seen a single, solitary occurrence of
police behavior like you describe.

Of course, people tend to be nicer, and bit more "real", in the Midwest. At
least outside the big cities.
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Iowa City, IA
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"JohnH" wrote in
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OK....I think I've made my point. Enough story telling.

Sometimes it works in your favor. One night quite late I ran out of gas
on a highway exit ramp. I proceed on foot and notice a police car
sitting in a field. I walk over and ask him where the nearest gas
station was as I had just run out of gas. "Hop in!" he said, and drove
me to the nearest gas station. I put a deposit on a gas can and put 5
gallons in the can and put it in the cruiser trunk. On the way back to
my van, he says "I'm on vacation in 2 hours, I can't wait!" then
proceeds to turn left at a red light with a no left turn sign. He goes
up the ramp the wrong way (no cop lights) and drops me off. "Thanks!" I
say as he speeds backwards down the ramp. It was all rather funny.

HAHAHAH...that is too funny....

Brian
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:JCLQf.20514$oL.9462@attbi_s71:

Ughhh...now I'm depressed...this planet sucks...

Apparently only the part of it you occupy, Brian. ;-)

In 47 years on this planet, in two states, a dozen cities, three
businesses, and a couple of dozen jobs, I've never seen a single,
solitary occurrence of police behavior like you describe.

Of course, people tend to be nicer, and bit more "real", in the Midwest.
At least outside the big cities.

You may have a point...all of these incidents have occured in
north Orange County, CA...Buena Park mostly. Actually, I have
since heard from several sources that BP police have a "reputation"
even amongst other police forces as being...errr..."bad".

Brian
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:JCLQf.20514$oL.9462@attbi_s71...
Ughhh...now I'm depressed...this planet sucks...

Apparently only the part of it you occupy, Brian. ;-)

In 47 years on this planet, in two states, a dozen cities, three
businesses, and a couple of dozen jobs, I've never seen a single, solitary
occurrence of police behavior like you describe.

Of course, people tend to be nicer, and bit more "real", in the Midwest.
At least outside the big cities.

Or, "I didn't see it so it must not exist".

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:27:09 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:JCLQf.20514$oL.9462@attbi_s71...
Ughhh...now I'm depressed...this planet sucks...

Apparently only the part of it you occupy, Brian. ;-)

In 47 years on this planet, in two states, a dozen cities, three
businesses, and a couple of dozen jobs, I've never seen a single, solitary
occurrence of police behavior like you describe.

Of course, people tend to be nicer, and bit more "real", in the Midwest.
At least outside the big cities.

Or, "I didn't see it so it must not exist".

More likely that the whole state of Iowa and Orange County, CA have
the same population (ca 3M in 2004). Buena Park, in 2000, had about
80K people to Iowa City's 50K.

Cops are just thicker on the ground where Brian rides.

Don

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message

An example of one is far from conclusive evidence. ......

Less than 24 hours prior to this post, you cited "an example of one" in
describing an event wherein you supposedly got a town cop fired for issuing
"...a totally bogus citation...". BTW, I'm unfamiliar with that legal term
"totally bogus". Not sure exactly what is implied. :-)