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Old March 28th 06, 08:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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How have I missed this video until now
http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/11..._Show_Accident

Now, that's close.


Mike
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Old March 28th 06, 08:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Now, that's close

Wasn't *that* close... The ground still hit him.

IIRC that was an Su-27 back in 2002.

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Old March 29th 06, 12:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"pittss1c" wrote in message
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How have I missed this video until now
http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/11..._Show_Accident

Now, that's close.


Mike


...and that is why in the US planes can't overfly the crowd.

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Old March 29th 06, 01:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in message
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..and that is why in the US planes can't overfly the crowd.


If I recall correctly, they not only are not permitted to overfly the crowd,
the maneuvers must be designed so that the momentum of the airplane is never
directed toward the crowd.


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Old March 29th 06, 02:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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...and that is why in the US planes can't overfly the crowd

.... Unless the show is on a military base. Some years ago I watched the
Thunderbirds on a base.
One of their routines featured a surprise - the "missing" plane came
roaring over the crowd from
behind - at low altitude and full afterburner. Quite impressive.

David Johnson

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Old March 29th 06, 03:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In military shows they still overfly the crowd. I have been to plenty of
recent Ft. Lauderdale air and see shows that at least once they overfly the
crowd at least once as they scream in from a missing man position.

-Jonathan

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oups.com...
..and that is why in the US planes can't overfly the crowd

... Unless the show is on a military base. Some years ago I watched the
Thunderbirds on a base.
One of their routines featured a surprise - the "missing" plane came
roaring over the crowd from
behind - at low altitude and full afterburner. Quite impressive.

David Johnson



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Old March 29th 06, 04:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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oups.com...
..and that is why in the US planes can't overfly the crowd

... Unless the show is on a military base. Some years ago I watched the
Thunderbirds on a base.
One of their routines featured a surprise - the "missing" plane came
roaring over the crowd from
behind - at low altitude and full afterburner. Quite impressive.

David Johnson


A friend went to the UK for an F1 race, he said the airshow before the raced
was better than the race was. They didn't care where the crowd was they flew
anywhere!

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DW


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Old March 29th 06, 03:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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How have I missed this video until now
http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/11..._Show_Accident

Now, that's close.


You missed it because it just "hit" the internet. We actually had it
up before nothingtoxic -- but by only a few hours.

See it he

http://alexisparkinn.com/photogaller...rashinLviv.wmv

See another view of this infamous crash he

http://alexisparkinn.com/photogaller...n_disaster.ram
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Old April 4th 06, 10:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 at 16:39:54 in message
, Peter Duniho
wrote:
"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in message
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..and that is why in the US planes can't overfly the crowd.


If I recall correctly, they not only are not permitted to overfly the crowd,
the maneuvers must be designed so that the momentum of the airplane is never
directed toward the crowd.

Who is suggesting that the SU27 was permitted to overfly the crowd? It
seems likely that control was lost at a crucial moment due to a high
speed departure and that the aircraft changed direction and was then in
a position where recovery was almost impossible. It was apparently known
that the SU27 could depart suddenly following a compressor stall.

Ref for details: 'Zero Error Margin' (Airshow display flying analysed)
by Des Barker. Page 57 et al. He discusses the accident over several
pages.
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Old April 5th 06, 12:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"David CL Francis" wrote in message
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Who is suggesting that the SU27 was permitted to overfly the crowd?


No one, as near as I can tell. The portion of the thread to which you
replied concerns only general statements about airshow rules in the US.


 




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