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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... We're ALL "immigrants" to America No way. I was born here. Ouch. Okay, I deserved that... ;-) How about: "All of our families immigrated to America"? Including the aborigines. |
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![]() "Jim Burns" wrote in message I think that the media personnel are simply telling us that THEY won't work these jobs. ![]() The media tell us what they want us to believe - not just about criminal aliens, but about every aspect of policy news. Objective reporting fell off the top of their priority list a long, long time ago. |
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A local radio station said there was going to be three on three baseball
today. That was all there was there were not immigrants. Montblack wrote: ("Jay Honeck" wrote) Tomorrow is the so-called "Immigrant Boycott", planned so that illegal aliens can make a show of their economic clout in America by staying home from work. I know the lodging industry is having a bird about the potential impact of this boycott, as evidenced by the hilarious "urgent action updates" we have been receiving from the Lodging Association. We are finding it truly enjoyable to watch as all the corrupt hoteliers who hired illegal aliens in the first place -- basically everyone else in the lodging industry -- panics about their plight. They can pay their "guest workers" double-time-and-a-half tomorrow ...or close up shop. (x2.5) is about where the wages would be without "guest workers" so one day of it shouldn't be too much for those businesses to bear. I'm not sure what they're trying to accomplish with this boycott? It could have an unforeseen negative result for the ILLEGALS ...I mean, "guest workers". Montblack |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com... Legal immigrants have NOTHING to protest. Of course they do. Anyone who disagrees with the current immigration policy has something to protest. You don't have to be an illegal to disagree with the US government. |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote Yet, I've been in an email mosh pit over this issue with "human resource professionals" from big-chain hotels, some of who are bashing me for being "unfair" to "workers" and "denying their rights" by not hiring documented Americans! Am I missing something? You don't hire un documented aliens, are you? What is their beef? -- Jim in NC |
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![]() Jay Honeck wrote: We're ALL "immigrants" to America No way. I was born here. Ouch. Okay, I deserved that... ;-) How about: "All of our families immigrated to America"? While that may or may not be true, it is irrelavant. Watch your email inbox today for comments made by the Australian prime minister. He basically says love it or leave it. |
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I love it when people use vague terms like "flooding". A word like that, in
this context, has no use but to evoke an emotional response in an attempt to bypass rational analysis of the issue. Especially when you use made-up numbers like "10's of millions". As of 2003, the *TOTAL* estimated number of illegal immigrants living in the US was fewer than 10 million (7 million, to be exact). It's not even ONE ten million, never mind "10's of millions". Well, Pete, Reuter's thinks you're wrong by a few million: ************************************************** ************************************************* WASHINGTON - A one-day nationwide strike and business boycott gathered steam on Monday to demand legal rights for millions of illegal immigrants, with many U.S. businesses shutting down voluntarily to avoid disruption. Early reports suggested many of the estimated 11.5-12 million illegal immigrants in the country were staying away from work, despite a mixed message from immigrant-rights organizations, some of which opposed the action. ************************************************** ************************************************* I wonder how they estimate the number of illegal aliens? It's not like they're standing around, asking to be counted. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... I love it when people use vague terms like "flooding". A word like that, in this context, has no use but to evoke an emotional response in an attempt to bypass rational analysis of the issue. Especially when you use made-up numbers like "10's of millions". As of 2003, the *TOTAL* estimated number of illegal immigrants living in the US was fewer than 10 million (7 million, to be exact). It's not even ONE ten million, never mind "10's of millions". Well, Pete, Reuter's thinks you're wrong by a few million: ************************************************** ************ WASHINGTON - A one-day nationwide strike and business boycott gathered steam on Monday to demand legal rights for millions of illegal immigrants, with many U.S. businesses shutting down voluntarily to avoid disruption. Early reports suggested many of the estimated 11.5-12 million illegal immigrants in the country were staying away from work, despite a mixed message from immigrant-rights organizations, some of which opposed the action. ************************************************** ************** I wonder how they estimate the number of illegal aliens? It's not like they're standing around, asking to be counted. The actual number is irrelevant. The point is there is a ****-load of them here, and they are still coming at a rate of about 1,000,000 a month (give or take a few thousand). This is a direct result of the out of control birth rate in 3rd world countries. The population explosion is coming home to roost, so to speak. Like global warming, we probably have passed the point of no return in regard to getting the world's population under control. Do not expect life for your children to be better than yours. Until the world's population is stabilized, and then reduced, expect more illegal immigration, terrorists, wide-spread diseases, social unrest, and anything else that results from over-crowded countries unable to contain their hordes of uneducated, starving, and desperate masses. Granted, Mother Nature will probably stabilze and correct this problem, but her solution will be non-discriminatory and affect everyone, whether you are the problem or not. |
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On Mon, 01 May 2006 14:43:10 +0000, Jose wrote:
There were native Americans here, and some of those folks have families. Sure, but those newcomers arrived barely 18,000 years ago. Not enough time to put down serious roots. Why, I'd bet they didn't even learn English when they moved here. - Andrew |
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("Peter Duniho" wrote)
[snips] INS is screwed up, as is much of our government. No doubt about that. I have plenty of personal experience with the INS to confirm your assertion. I'm not clear on how that is relevant to the question of who should be permitted to immigrate to the US, or what to do with those who decide to do so illegally. Stop them. Turn them back. Return them. I love it when people use vague terms like "flooding". A word like that, in this context, has no use but to evoke an emotional response in an attempt to bypass rational analysis of the issue. Especially when you use made-up numbers like "10's of millions". As of 2003, the *TOTAL* estimated number of illegal immigrants living in the US was fewer than 10 million (7 million, to be exact). It's not even ONE ten million, never mind "10's of millions". Compare that to the US birth rate (4 million annually), and the *legal* immigration rate (about 1 million annually). Three points: 1. "INS is screwed up, as is much of our government. No doubt about that." Total 2003 estimated numbers of "illegals" is a GOVERNMENT driven number. I chose to believe my own lying eyes. 2. What do you see more of when you're out and about - babies or Mexicans? Between 1947 and 1967 that answer would have been babies. g 3. I've lived next to the Mississippi River all of my life - "flooding" is not a vague term In other words, every 18 months the United States adds the same number of legal residents as the TOTAL number of illegal residents. With an estimated annual increase of illegal residents of only 350,000, illegal residents account for less than 7% of the population growth in the US. A significant number, to be sure, but hardly "flooding" IMHO. You're in love with the numbers, but unfortunately, lost in them too. The parade is over here, Pete. When I see a Mexican on the streets of Minnesota, my assumption is "Illegal". I bet I'm right over 75% of the time. It seems to me that that has more to do with the relative proportion of legal and illegal Mexicans within the US than it does with the total number of illegal immigrants (even assuming you're right as often as you think). Somewhat agree here, however, we're now back to square one - what is the real number of illegals hunkering down within our infrastructure? My eyes tell me our Government has lost ALL control of even counting them! Pete, they're everywhere - in numbers. Pablo Montblack |
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