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Even though it has only now been officially released, that video was
going around on the Internet since 2001. Oh hum. The aircraft flew over my neighborhood on the way to the Pentagon. A number of my neighbors saw it, and wondered, since this was not a normal flight path. I was at work a few miles from the Pentagon, and felt the ground shake at impact. Although my view of the Pentagon itself was blocked by a building, I could see the black kerosene smoke. The various conspiracy theories all provide complex explanations of something that was far simpler -- the aircraft was hijacked, and flown into the building at high speed. Paul |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message ups.com... I know the conspiracy buffs want to go someplace with it. I'd like to know what in hell happened to all the aircraft parts and pieces? Even the space shuittle left a lot of wreckage and bodies that were identified from how big an explosion and how high? The other thing that's baffling to me are the eye-witnesses who "saw" the plane hit the ground in front of the Pentagon, and slide (at a very high rate of speed) into the building. There are dozens of photos taken on 9/11 that show the Pentagon lawn in pristine condition directly in front of the hole in the wall. You never bouced a landing? |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message ups.com... Here's a pretty funny site that nonetheless brings up some interesting points: http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/pentanium.html -- also checkout http://www.geocities.com/pentalawn2000/ |
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This airplane hit a solid stone building at very high speed. The
aluminum in the airframe was obliterated. Have you never seen the video of the F4 phantom slamming into the concrete barrier to test the containment vessel of a nuclear power plant? The F4 literally vaporizes. Nothing left but the wingtips that miss the outside edge of the concrete... Jay Honeck has this video on his website. Watch it and you will understand what happened to Flight 77. Dean |
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Simple concrete proof of no conspiracy...
The previous presidnet could not get a discrete service from a slightly overweight intern without it making national news. Yet the conspiracy wackos think that this president organized a conspiracy that had to involve hundreds of people over a widely scattered geographic area, None of which have come forward? None of which has leaked? I just don't think that the governement can keep that kind of secret. Paul |
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Matt
I'd ask how many crash sites you have been to and smelled the stink of burnt aircraft and bodies.???? My responses have been of a questioning nature and you, in your expertise, want to chastise me? Please do illuminate us with your wisdom and experience. |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
The other thing that's baffling to me are the eye-witnesses who "saw" the plane hit the ground in front of the Pentagon, and slide (at a very high rate of speed) into the building. There are dozens of photos taken on 9/11 that show the Pentagon lawn in pristine condition directly in front of the hole in the wall. Don't be ridiculous. First, that lawn is far from pristine. It doesn't look like a plane slid across that grass because one didn't. It simply bounced off the lawn. It is obvious from the photos of the hole in the building, that when the plan hit it, it was not sliding across the ground. It is also easy to see a spot that looks like it might be where the plane bounced off the grass. -- Chris W KE5GIX Gift Giving Made Easy Get the gifts you want & give the gifts they want One stop wish list for any gift, from anywhere, for any occasion! http://thewishzone.com |
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Dean
What is the difference in size and payload between the F4 and Flight 77? |
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"Ol Shy & Bashful" writes:
Having been onsite for quite a number of airplane crashes, numerous military aircraft, jets and piston, single and multi engine, the thing that struck me was the lack of aircraft wreckage and the bodies of occupants. Curious that the hole was round and showed no evidence of the wings or engines impacting the building. Large pieces of engines have been on every crash site I ever photographed as part of an accident investigation team. I know the conspiracy buffs want to go someplace with it. I'd like to know what in hell happened to all the aircraft parts and pieces? Even the space shuittle left a lot of wreckage and bodies that were identified from how big an explosion and how high? Not my area of expertise, but one thing that strikes me is that many accidents happen attempting to land, with the pilot flying the plane relatively slowly (depending on conditions, any damage, etc.), whereas the Pentagon strike was apparently done at close to cruise speed. Much faster, I think. Which means much more energy available, which means things broken into considerably smaller pieces. I can easily believe it wouldn't look like a normal crash-while-attempting-to-land accident site. -- David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/ RKBA: http://www.dd-b.net/carry/ Pics: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/ Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/ |
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