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Old May 17th 06, 02:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Even though it has only now been officially released, that video was
going around on the Internet since 2001. Oh hum.

The aircraft flew over my neighborhood on the way to the Pentagon. A
number of my neighbors saw it, and wondered, since this was not a
normal flight path. I was at work a few miles from the Pentagon, and
felt the ground shake at impact. Although my view of the Pentagon
itself was blocked by a building, I could see the black kerosene smoke.

The various conspiracy theories all provide complex explanations of
something that was far simpler -- the aircraft was hijacked, and flown
into the building at high speed.

Paul

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Old May 17th 06, 02:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I know the conspiracy buffs want to go someplace with it. I'd like to
know what in hell happened to all the aircraft parts and pieces? Even
the space shuittle left a lot of wreckage and bodies that were
identified from how big an explosion and how high?


The other thing that's baffling to me are the eye-witnesses who "saw"
the plane hit the ground in front of the Pentagon, and slide (at a very
high rate of speed) into the building. There are dozens of photos
taken on 9/11 that show the Pentagon lawn in pristine condition
directly in front of the hole in the wall.


You never bouced a landing?




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Old May 17th 06, 05:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/ :~)


Good website link,
thanks.


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Old May 17th 06, 05:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Here's a pretty funny site that nonetheless brings up some interesting
points:
http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/pentanium.html
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also checkout http://www.geocities.com/pentalawn2000/


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Old May 17th 06, 06:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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This airplane hit a solid stone building at very high speed. The
aluminum in the airframe was obliterated. Have you never seen the
video of the F4 phantom slamming into the concrete barrier to test the
containment vessel of a nuclear power plant? The F4 literally
vaporizes. Nothing left but the wingtips that miss the outside edge of
the concrete...

Jay Honeck has this video on his website. Watch it and you will
understand what happened to Flight 77.

Dean

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Old May 17th 06, 07:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Simple concrete proof of no conspiracy...

The previous presidnet could not get a discrete service from
a slightly overweight intern without it making national news.

Yet the conspiracy wackos think that this president organized a
conspiracy that had to involve hundreds of people over
a widely scattered geographic area,
None of which have come forward?
None of which has leaked?

I just don't think that the governement can keep that kind of secret.


Paul




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Old May 17th 06, 07:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Matt
I'd ask how many crash sites you have been to and smelled the stink of
burnt aircraft and bodies.????
My responses have been of a questioning nature and you, in your
expertise, want to chastise me?
Please do illuminate us with your wisdom and experience.

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Old May 17th 06, 07:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck wrote:


The other thing that's baffling to me are the eye-witnesses who "saw"
the plane hit the ground in front of the Pentagon, and slide (at a very
high rate of speed) into the building. There are dozens of photos
taken on 9/11 that show the Pentagon lawn in pristine condition
directly in front of the hole in the wall.


Don't be ridiculous. First, that lawn is far from pristine. It doesn't
look like a plane slid across that grass because one didn't. It simply
bounced off the lawn. It is obvious from the photos of the hole in the
building, that when the plan hit it, it was not sliding across the
ground. It is also easy to see a spot that looks like it might be where
the plane bounced off the grass.


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Old May 17th 06, 07:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dean
What is the difference in size and payload between the F4 and Flight 77?

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Old May 17th 06, 08:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Ol Shy & Bashful" writes:

Having been onsite for quite a number of airplane crashes, numerous
military aircraft, jets and piston, single and multi engine, the thing
that struck me was the lack of aircraft wreckage and the bodies of
occupants.
Curious that the hole was round and showed no evidence of the wings or
engines impacting the building. Large pieces of engines have been on
every crash site I ever photographed as part of an accident
investigation team.
I know the conspiracy buffs want to go someplace with it. I'd like to
know what in hell happened to all the aircraft parts and pieces? Even
the space shuittle left a lot of wreckage and bodies that were
identified from how big an explosion and how high?


Not my area of expertise, but one thing that strikes me is that many
accidents happen attempting to land, with the pilot flying the plane
relatively slowly (depending on conditions, any damage, etc.), whereas
the Pentagon strike was apparently done at close to cruise speed.
Much faster, I think. Which means much more energy available, which
means things broken into considerably smaller pieces. I can easily
believe it wouldn't look like a normal crash-while-attempting-to-land
accident site.
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