Military Air Fields

vincent p. norris wrote:
I seem to recall that several years ago, AOPA Pilot carried an article
stating that a military veteran could obtain permission ahead of time
to land at some Air Force and Navy fields, and even stay at the BOQ.

Doesn't anyone else recall that?

After retiring from the Navy, my Dad took a job flying for Transamerica.
Since we lived in the Bay Area, and his flights originated in San Diego,
he'd drive up to Travis AFB and dead head down to North Island, where he
would stay at the BOQ. He retired from all that in the mid 80s, so I
don't know if that's an option anymore.

Debbie

I had the opportunity several years ago to land at the NAS-Joint Reserve
Base in Fort Worth, TX. I had to sign all sorts of paperwork. But
arriving on final to land and 4 F-16s are waiting to takeoff - priceless.

Ross
KSWI

Viperdoc wrote:

You are not permitted to land at a military only airfield without proof of
insurance and a "hold harmless" waiver. Also, you need advanced permission
regarding the exact time you expect to land, as well as the purpose of your
visit. You should also contact the security forces and tell them that you
are landing, as well as the base command post and the airport manager.
Sometimes the communications could be better between these groups.

There will not be any services available, such as gas, computer access, etc,
nor will you probably be allowed to enter any buildings.

Likely, you will not be granted permission unless you have some official
business. If there is live ordinance loaded on the planes on the ramp or the
mission involves nuclear alert, don't even bother to try asking. In some of
these situations the security forces are authorized the use of deadly force
to protect our assets.

I've been trying for a while to fly to our Air Guard ramp (where I am a
member), which is co located on a civilian airport, and so far have not had
much luck. The paperwork and other restrictions make it so restrictive as to
be non viable.

I have applied for and been turned down for landing privileges at the Los
Alamitos Training Center in California. The base has little military
traffic, no classified work, and other than its Class-D airspace no SUA. An
active CAP squadron is based there and they do periodic glider flights with
their cadet cadre. Except during moderate or higher security alerts, the
base is open for civilian vehicular traffic. It would be great to be able to
land there because my daughter lives right around the corner AND I wouldn't
have to fuss with the traffic at LGB (Long Beach). Oh well..... sigh....

Viperdoc wrote:
You are not permitted to land at a military only airfield without proof of
insurance and a "hold harmless" waiver. Also, you need advance permission
SNIP

This is also true of NASA facilities. I work at NASA's Wallops Island facility,
and I can't even get permission unless I have an official reason for it. I
have received persmission two times in the past, and it was fairly cool. For
now, I just have to "put up" with all the jet noise outside my office (usually
P-3s or E-2Cs, with a couple of military Lears or F/A-18s thrown in).

--- Jay


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"Casey Wilson" N2310D @ gmail.com wrote in news:ABPvg.14173$rT6.4658
@trnddc03:

I have applied for and been turned down for landing privileges at the Los
Alamitos Training Center in California. The base has little military

I too live near KSLI, about where they turn on final in
the pattern. (Katella & Western, if you know the area)

It's been a bit busy the past few days. Usually it's just
the daily twin turbo's and occasional rotor wing. But lately
there've been several pairs of Chinooks, Sea Kings, Blackhawks,
and a couple C-130's going right over my house.

Oh, and my frind the WB-57 was back today as well, flying
in circles for a couple hours right over this area.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...715Z/KNKX/KNKX

Brian
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When I was at Albuquerque (ABQ) we mingled with military aircraft all
the time. It was a joint use airport at Kirtland AFB. GA aicraft,
airlines and F16s shared the same runways. There were even transient
NASA training jets, and I once met a shuttle astronaut waiting to fuel
his airplane on the GA ramp.

Ross Richardson wrote:
I had the opportunity several years ago to land at the NAS-Joint Reserve
Base in Fort Worth, TX. I had to sign all sorts of paperwork. But
arriving on final to land and 4 F-16s are waiting to takeoff - priceless.

Ross
KSWI

"Morgans" wrote in :


"Skywise" wrote

Oh, and my frind the WB-57 was back today as well, flying
in circles for a couple hours right over this area.


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...715Z/KNKX/KNKX

What was the multiple on top of multiple perfect circles in the upper left
side of the flight trace? Gaining and losing altitude?

For the period I was watching, which was only for the last
half dozen circles or so, the altitude reported was 50K.
In fact, the track log bears this out.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...5Z/KNKX/KNKX/t
racklog

I'm not 100% sure many times he circled, but doing a Mk. 1
eyeball scan of the track log, it looks to be about 20 times.

Brian
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"Skywise" wrote

Oh, and my frind the WB-57 was back today as well, flying
in circles for a couple hours right over this area.


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...715Z/KNKX/KNKX

What was the multiple on top of multiple perfect circles in the upper left
side of the flight trace? Gaining and losing altitude?
--
Jim in NC

"Skywise" wrote

For the period I was watching, which was only for the last
half dozen circles or so, the altitude reported was 50K.
In fact, the track log bears this out.


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...5Z/KNKX/KNKX/t
racklog

I forgot about the flightlog. Thanks.
--
Jim in NC

In article ,
"Morgans" wrote:

"Skywise" wrote

For the period I was watching, which was only for the last
half dozen circles or so, the altitude reported was 50K.
In fact, the track log bears this out.


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N.../KNKX/tracklog

WOW!!! Descent from FL500 to 700 ft in 23 minutes!