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  #201  
Old July 25th 06, 06:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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Here if there's a zoning issue and I would like to have my say I simply show up at the city council meeting.

Can you vote? If I came from out of town, could I vote on your zoning
issues?

Jose
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Old July 25th 06, 07:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Beckman
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"Jose" wrote in message
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Here if there's a zoning issue and I would like to have my say I simply
show up at the city council meeting.


Can you vote? If I came from out of town, could I vote on your zoning
issues?

Jose


Can't say I'ver ever heard of a municipality handling zoning issues via an
election.

Aren't they usually handled by a Zoning Board or Commssion who hold hearings
where the public is welcome to come and voice their view on a proposed
change?

Here in Chandler, AZ, they are even televised on the local government-access
cable channel.

Jay Beckman
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  #203  
Old July 25th 06, 07:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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The homeowner association is not a government body and not really what we
are talking about. I'm not familiar with road maintenance associations
either sanctioned by the local government or not.


"RST Engineering" wrote in message
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Actually, in some very specific instances, land ownership IS a requirement
to vote. Specifically, if forming a road maintenance association
sanctioned by the local governement agency, you have to be a land owner
along that road in order to vote whether or not to form the association.
Other "homeowner" associations (water, electricity, sewer, etc.) require a
vote of the landowners involved in order to form.

Jim




"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
...

"Jose" wrote in message
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(However, some voting rights to non-citizen property owners,
relating solely to their property, would be reasonable).

Jose


No, actually it wouldn't. We in the US don't require land ownership to
vote so why should we grant voting rights because of land ownership?





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Old July 25th 06, 07:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jose" wrote in message
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(However, some voting rights to non-citizen property owners,
relating solely to their property, would be reasonable).


No, actually it wouldn't. We in the US don't require land ownership to
vote so why should we grant voting rights because of land ownership?


Local zoning issues come to mind.

Jose
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Are you saying that in your local you have to be a land owner in order to
vote on zoning issues that have to do with zoning? If so what local is that?


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Old July 25th 06, 07:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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Can't say I'ver ever heard of a municipality handling zoning issues via an
election.


Usually it's a zoning board, but sometimes a referendum is called for.
Actually, when I mentioned zoning, I meant to refer to the larger set of
land use questions, including tax and school issues (paid out of the
property tax).

Jose
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Old July 25th 06, 07:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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Are you saying that in your local you have to be a land owner in order to
vote on zoning issues that have to do with zoning? If so what local is that?


I am in Ridgefield, Connecticut. I was also mistaken - checking with
town hall, voting on all issues is open only to US citizens.

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  #207  
Old July 25th 06, 09:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dylan Smith
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On 2006-07-23, BTIZ wrote:
A lot of these requirements are being driven by TSA. Badges for people
employed at the airport. People with their own airplanes may soon need
badges too.


I find it amazing that if I wait 5 years, flying in Britain will be more
free than flying in the United States. We USED to really look up to the
US system.

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  #208  
Old July 25th 06, 10:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"BTIZ" wrote:
People with their own airplanes may soon need
badges too.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinking_badges
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Old July 25th 06, 10:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Emily wrote:

Matt Whiting wrote:

Emily wrote:

Matt Whiting wrote:

Emily wrote:

Matt Whiting wrote:


You certainly come across as an anarchist, or a juvenile, I'm not
sure which not knowing your age.

Matt




No, I come across as someone who is terrified about the state of
our current government. At least one person has picked up on
that. I can't help your lack of reading comprehension. Are you
American?



100%. However, I'm not a paranoid American.

Matt



Then you're part of the problem. History has shown what happens when
the people just roll over for the government.



Only to the paranoid.

Matt



Obviously we disagree on this. Keep your head in the sand, it seems to
have worked for you so far.


Likewise, although it doesn't seem to be working as well for you.

Matt
  #210  
Old July 25th 06, 10:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Jim Logajan wrote:

Matt Whiting wrote:

It is obvious that you haven't yet learned to think on your own and
probably are still living with your parents.



You've now posted several personal attacks against Emily. She correctly
understood the law in one of her anecdotes and yet was attacked for
defending her rightful actions. I've posted elsewhere information that
supports her position. Your attack posts are self-referentially absurd and
I'm surprised you don't realize how this comes across.


I've not posted a single personal attack. Just making some observations
that are consistent with the posts being made. I never questions her
understanding of the law. I question her ability to conduct herself as
an adult.

Matt
 




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