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"Andrey Serbinenko" wrote in message

their own charts. In almost 40 years I haven't met anyone, not 1, who
prefers the gov charts over Jepps.

What do the military pilots use?

I think military pilots are - or used to be - required to use the fed
charts. Still, I never met one who, after having an opportunity to use
Jepps, maintained a preference for the gov charts.

Most people I know found the government update system awkward, but it was
designed for a different kind of operation, where a pilot could go into Ops
and get a chart kit and know that it was invariably uniform and current. No
one had to go through the set and r/r individual sheets.

John Gaquin wrote:
"Andrey Serbinenko" wrote in message

Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally
nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting

Jeppesen started so early on (early 30s), and his little notebooks were so
relevant and to the point, that it didn't take much for the Jepps to become
the de facto industry standard, even after the government started publishing
their own charts. In almost 40 years I haven't met anyone, not 1, who
prefers the gov charts over Jepps.

I like the FAA enroute charts better than Jepps', and the "new" (a few
years old by now) format on FAA approach plates is fine.

I will probably switch to FAA charts when my Jepps subscription expires
in a couple of months.

-jav

Andrey Serbinenko wrote:
Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally
nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting
business?

What about the plain old FAA published charts?

Isn't all the same data there, just in a different format?

John Gaquin wrote:
"Andrey Serbinenko" wrote in message

their own charts. In almost 40 years I haven't met anyone, not 1, who
prefers the gov charts over Jepps.
What do the military pilots use?

I think military pilots are - or used to be - required to use the fed
charts. Still, I never met one who, after having an opportunity to use
Jepps, maintained a preference for the gov charts.

My co-owner likes the Jepp charts, but uses the FAA versions because he
has to pay for them himself.

First I am not a hard IFR flyer. I started using Jepp because that is
what my instructor used. I had the SW, which is TX and the surrounding
states. That became a nightmare to update and most of the places I never
went to. I change to NOS charts after reading a IRF book by Rod Machado.
He explained IFR flying and compared the charts against each other. Each
have there good points and bad points. The differences were not that
great. I get a totally new book and can throw away the old. If I need
the additional territory, I just get that part. I now have North TX, OK
and AR.

Ross
KSWI

Javier wrote:

John Gaquin wrote:

"Andrey Serbinenko" wrote in message

Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally
nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting


Jeppesen started so early on (early 30s), and his little notebooks
were so relevant and to the point, that it didn't take much for the
Jepps to become the de facto industry standard, even after the
government started publishing their own charts. In almost 40 years I
haven't met anyone, not 1, who prefers the gov charts over Jepps.


I like the FAA enroute charts better than Jepps', and the "new" (a few
years old by now) format on FAA approach plates is fine.

I will probably switch to FAA charts when my Jepps subscription expires
in a couple of months.

-jav

"Andrey Serbinenko" wrote in message
...
Does anybody know why it so happened that there's literally
nobody else out there besides jepp in aeronautical charting
business? TERPS people develop the procedures, FAA test-flies
them, and all this info is publicly available. Yet, the only
commercial enterprise harvesting there is jepp. Between NACO and
them there's a substantial gap in terms of pricing and packaging
of services. Why is it empty?


Andrey

70 years of collecting and publishing?

"B A R R Y" wrote in message news:IGOxg.75725.


My co-owner likes the Jepp charts, but uses the FAA versions because he
has to pay for them himself.

Are they still free?? :-)

"Javier" wrote in message

I like the FAA enroute charts better than Jepps', and the "new" (a few
years old by now) format on FAA approach plates is fine.

I haven't even looked at a gov chart in 35 years or more. Perhaps they've
made changes to become more competitive and easier to use.

I haven't even looked at a gov chart in 35 years or more. Perhaps they've
made changes to become more competitive and easier to use.

They have. They are much better now.

Jose
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John Gaquin wrote:
"B A R R Y" wrote in message news:IGOxg.75725.

My co-owner likes the Jepp charts, but uses the FAA versions because he
has to pay for them himself.

Are they still free?? :-)



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