How many pilots are using technology

They are easy to use, just inconvenient. Going to the other side of the map, scrolling down because the page doesn't fit, etc.

In all fairness, folding and refolding maps in a tight cockpit is not so
easy either.

Jose
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"Newps" wrote in message
...
... A computer can display a page as nice as paper but it may take longer
to access the information.


No it cannot.

Typically, for a computer display, the user has to compromise his posture
and head position to match the position of the computer ( /GPS ) display.
Even "portable" computer displays are not as infinitely portable as is
paper, and will require at least a minimum of compromise by the user
(turning away from the glare, for example.).

With paper, you bring the display into the most convenient position to match
the user's posture and head position, no matter what it may be. With very
few exceptions, paper can be made to fit the user, no matter what his
physical attitude (lying on the floor, upside down, for example)!

Jose wrote:
They are easy to use, just inconvenient. Going to the other side of
the map, scrolling down because the page doesn't fit, etc.


In all fairness, folding and refolding maps in a tight cockpit is not so
easy either.

That all depends on how dexterous your passenger is. :-)

Matt

Icebound wrote:

"Newps" wrote in message
...

... A computer can display a page as nice as paper but it may take longer
to access the information.



No it cannot.

Yes it can.


http://www.arinc.com/news/2006/07-23-06.html

, 170-86 BCE

"Newps" wrote in message
...


Icebound wrote:

"Newps" wrote in message
...

... A computer can display a page as nice as paper but it may take
longer to access the information.



No it cannot.

Yes it can.


http://www.arinc.com/news/2006/07-23-06.html

grin Well, that certainly has some promise...

No it cannot.
Yes it can.
http://www.arinc.com/news/2006/07-23-06.html
"The portable eFlyBook unit measures about ½ x 6 x 9 inches, and is priced below $1100 including a 12-month digital subscription... "

Send me one. I'll review it and tell all of you whether it can or
can't. How's that?

Jose
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The monkey turns the crank and thinks he's making the music.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

I remember when we went to a paperless office, out paper bill went up 200%. And
the paper bill has gone up steadily each year since.

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:59:52 +0200, Thomas Borchert
wrote:

,

how many of us, pilots are using the current
technology out there to our benifit. I'm talking about GPS, E-Flight
Bag, E-Aviation Charts.

I would say, the vast majority.

How long do you think before paper-less
cockpits become the standard?

Remember the paperless office? Rephrase your question: How many people
are using computers in their office? Next question: When will the
paperless office come?

Paper has this really great user interface...

GeorgeC

On 25 Jul 2006 10:02:28 -0700, "
wrote:

I would like to know, how many of us, pilots are using the current
technology out there to our benifit. I'm talking about GPS, E-Flight
Bag, E-Aviation Charts. How long do you think before paper-less
cockpits become the standard?

I've always been an "Early Adopter" when I could afford it and my
degree and profession are in computer science. Having said that I use
a portable GPS and even fly IFR using it. I also have RNAV in the
panel. The rest of the stuff is "gadgets" to me. If I can bring the
charts up on the panel (moving map display and approach charts) that
is fine, but costs too much and I'd not abandon paper charts for VFR,
Enroute, or approach. The GPS makes flying much easier. Having the
approach charts on GPS is even finer, but again I'd never give up the
paper as its batteries never die although they do fly out the door
seal once in a while.

As to the paperless office, I heard about that long before I started
on my degree. The paperless office is as fictitious as "zero
defects". Both are unobtainable with today's technology AND
REGULATIONS. With computers the paperwork has at least doubled as you
not only have to keep the original records, you also have to document
and keep records of the computers and their programs.

If there is any office out there that has reduced their paper work by
using computers, they don't realize how dangerous a game they are
playing. I made very good money playing this game and I know there
are many out there that think they are saving money. The ones that
still use all the paper are either the smart ones or the ones that
have already gotten bit by the monster they created.


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 03:33:30 GMT, "Leonard Ellis"
wrote:

We keep an updated Garmin 295 in our Skyhawk along with paper sectionals,
Low-Altitude Enroute charts, and plates. I use the AOPA flight planner and
TripPack on my laptop to print plates for trips outside the local area not
covered by my plate subscription. I don't see a time when paper goes
completely away, at least as a real-time backup.

For in-flight diverts, I find that I can page through a bound book of plates
much faster than I can jiggle the menus and buttons on the 295, so until
voice recognition is inexpensively available and the equipment & its power
supplies are totally reliable, redundant, and fail-safe, paper will have a
place in my airborne environment.

I'm waiting for the full sized, gyro stabilized keyboard so I can make
entries while flying and not have to page through 10 layers of button
pushes just to change/delete/insert a way point. Then again I guess
they'd need to stabilize the pilot's seat as well for that to
work.:-))

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com



wrote in message
roups.com...
I would like to know, how many of us, pilots are using the current
technology out there to our benifit. I'm talking about GPS, E-Flight
Bag, E-Aviation Charts. How long do you think before paper-less
cockpits become the standard?


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Private wrote:

It is an old joke, but the answer is that; 'we will see the paper-less
cockpit (and office) the same day we have a paper-less bathroom.'

ISTM that computer usage has resulted in more paper and not less.

While it is true that computers have resulted in more, not less, paper
being used, a paper-less office is very possible (depending on the
business). One of the reasons computers initially generated more paper,
is because of the larger amount of data they could provide, and the fact
that few had the computers on their desk. Not to mention that the
monitors were small and very low resolution. Today a paper-less office
is not hard to achieve with a little effort. However, I wouldn't even
consider having a paper-less cockpit. I also wouldn't want a
computer-less cockpit either though.

--
Chris W
KE5GIX

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