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  #71  
Old July 31st 06, 01:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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A 70 hour student may have developed some basis to judge
their CFI, a 2 hour student has only those two hours.


At every airport, the "old timers" can tell you, after the
fact that they knew "George was going to kill somebody" but
the unwritten rule is to never speak badly about a fellow
aviator.


If there are any student pilots reading this, not all
instructors are any good at all. Not all commercial pilots
are skilled and not all ATPs have good moral character or
ethics.


"Thomas Borchert" wrote in
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| Jim,
|
| Because students don't know any better.
|
|
| Only if they don't want to.
|
| --
| Thomas Borchert (EDDH)
|


  #72  
Old July 31st 06, 02:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Jim,

A 70 hour student may have developed some basis to judge
their CFI, a 2 hour student has only those two hours.


And all the books he/she should have read. And all the newsgroups
postings. The King (argh!) videos. The hanging out at the field. Also,
any person should have a reasonably tuned BS detector.

At every airport, the "old timers" can tell you, after the
fact that they knew "George was going to kill somebody" but
the unwritten rule is to never speak badly about a fellow
aviator.


Then I hope the "old timers" feel really bad the first time and speak
up next time.

If there are any student pilots reading this, not all
instructors are any good at all.


Yep. Which is why one shouldn't be afraid to switch if a CFI doesn't
work out.


--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old July 31st 06, 02:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Jim,

A two hour student pilot has zero knowledge or experience
with which to judge the skill, competency, or ethics of a
CFI.


See my other posting.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old August 1st 06, 09:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Roger[_4_]
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:22:04 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

A 70 hour student may have developed some basis to judge
their CFI, a 2 hour student has only those two hours.


At every airport, the "old timers" can tell you, after the
fact that they knew "George was going to kill somebody" but
the unwritten rule is to never speak badly about a fellow
aviator.


What unwritten rule? We had one guy lose his judgmental ability and
quite a few of the local pilots had a talk with the FAA. He wrecked
three planes with one that seriously injured himself and another
pilot. The FAA grounded him over that and with the past history and
pilot input he was done.

Few of us would report some one for hotdogging (within reason), but
when they appear to be of the "he's gonna kill some body" most around
here would speak up. If's he's gonna kill himself that's just
Darwinism.


If there are any student pilots reading this, not all
instructors are any good at all. Not all commercial pilots
are skilled and not all ATPs have good moral character or
ethics.


We have one very highly thought of, award winning instructor on the
field that I refuse to fly with.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com



"Thomas Borchert" wrote in
message ...
| Jim,
|
| Because students don't know any better.
|
|
| Only if they don't want to.
|
| --
| Thomas Borchert (EDDH)
|

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
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Old August 1st 06, 09:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Roger[_4_]
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:49:29 +0200, Thomas Borchert
wrote:

Jim,

after all, he [she] is a god.


If someone blindly accepts argument by authority, one might say they're
not fit for the decision-making process required of a pilot-in-command.


What? Our whole modern society is based on that.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
  #76  
Old August 1st 06, 09:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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And how many hours do you have? Point is, you have
experience now.





"Roger" wrote in message
...
| On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:22:04 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote:
|
| A 70 hour student may have developed some basis to judge
| their CFI, a 2 hour student has only those two hours.
|
|
| At every airport, the "old timers" can tell you, after
the
| fact that they knew "George was going to kill somebody"
but
| the unwritten rule is to never speak badly about a fellow
| aviator.
|
|
| What unwritten rule? We had one guy lose his judgmental
ability and
| quite a few of the local pilots had a talk with the FAA.
He wrecked
| three planes with one that seriously injured himself and
another
| pilot. The FAA grounded him over that and with the past
history and
| pilot input he was done.
|
| Few of us would report some one for hotdogging (within
reason), but
| when they appear to be of the "he's gonna kill some body"
most around
| here would speak up. If's he's gonna kill himself that's
just
| Darwinism.
|
|
| If there are any student pilots reading this, not all
| instructors are any good at all. Not all commercial
pilots
| are skilled and not all ATPs have good moral character or
| ethics.
|
| We have one very highly thought of, award winning
instructor on the
| field that I refuse to fly with.
|
| Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
| (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
| www.rogerhalstead.com
|
|
|
| "Thomas Borchert" wrote in
| message ...
| | Jim,
| |
| | Because students don't know any better.
| |
| |
| | Only if they don't want to.
| |
| | --
| | Thomas Borchert (EDDH)
| |
|
| Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
| (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
| www.rogerhalstead.com


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Old August 1st 06, 01:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily[_1_]
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Roger wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:49:29 +0200, Thomas Borchert
wrote:

Jim,

after all, he [she] is a god.

If someone blindly accepts argument by authority, one might say they're
not fit for the decision-making process required of a pilot-in-command.


What? Our whole modern society is based on that.


No it's not.
  #78  
Old August 1st 06, 03:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Roger,

If someone blindly accepts argument by authority, one might say they're
not fit for the decision-making process required of a pilot-in-command.


What? Our whole modern society is based on that.


Not at all. On merit, yes, possibly. On authority, i.e. status - no way. At
least not for a reasonably skeptical being. "I have more flight hours than
you so I'm right", "I am flight instructor, so I am right", "I am your boss
so I am right" - all don't work or shouldn't work.

As for "modern" society: Abiding by conventional wisdom would have
prevented Einstein, the Wrights, railways and much more that's part of
modern society.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

 




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