Torutured AOPA logic

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
What businesses run on annual government operating subsidies, and get
federal capital subsidies?

What other businesses need a federal "lifeline?"





Trucking comes to mind.

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
Yes, but with one major exception. Federal gasoline taxes generate more
money annually than highway grants.

AV gas taxes contibute about 2% or so to the Aviation Trust Fund. The
rest comes from commercial airline passenger and General Fund support.


How much of the cost to the aviation trust fund do you think is spent to
support only GA?

Lots. Virtually all SBIR/STTR programs are government operating
subsidies, and very few if any become sustainable businesses. All
subcontracting "businesses" to the defense industry and NASA are
essentially living on subsidies. They would all disappear if the
federal money stopped flowing.


Skylune wrote:
What businesses run on annual government operating subsidies, and get
federal capital subsidies?

What other businesses need a federal "lifeline?"

"Skylune" wrote in
lkaboutaviation.com:

The first six are not businesses, they are government services.

Amtrak is not a government service it's just heavily subsidized.

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Hi again Troll ..

Then next time you go on vacation go catch your flight out of a private
airport. Or the next time you order some crap by mail order tell UPS or
Fedex or whoever that you will only accept your package if it was flown in
to a private airport. Or when you need to ask for the kindness of a angel
flight pilot tell them you only want to go to a private airport..

P.S.
I do realize that you only post your crap to get a reaction from real pilots
and aircraft owners...
Why don't you go bug the boaters for a while..




"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...

I like Spencer, then, and the other private airports. That is how all GA
airports should be operated. As businesses. No tax money.


Just GA airports? Why?

Skylune wrote:
A Boyer acolyte makes the following statement publicly (regarding user
fees):

"That is why it's vital that we ensure airports get the funding they need
to maintain safety and generate revenue."

They need to "get funding" to "generate revenue."

LOL. Sounds like when Democrats talk about "investment," meaning raising
taxes to provide more money to public sector unions. If these airports are
such economic "engines," they wouldn't need annual subsidies. AOPA at
least calls the subsidies a "lifeline," thus implying that many would
cease to exist if users had to pay, rather than taxpayers and commercial
passengers, which generate virtually ALL OF THE REVENUE in the ATF.

The best part is that these comments were made in conference in CHICAGO!
Apparently, the economic armegeddon resulting from closing Megis has yet
to occur...


Skylune is now the "voice of reason?"

Bru hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahah

Andrew Sarangan wrote:
Of course you need funding to generate revenue.

Yep. It's called "investment".
Communities spend oodles of money for public infrastructure on that
premise.
I spend money on education for that purpose.

IF you want to kill an airport slowly, don't invest in it. Let the
runways deteriorate, the buildings collapse, and cancel fuel
deliveries. Soon enough you'll have plenty of idle time to spend
wondering why nobody stops there any more.

Skylune wrote:
What businesses run on annual government operating subsidies, and get
federal capital subsidies?

What other businesses need a federal "lifeline?"

For a couple decades now, I'm wondering what industries DON'T get
subsidies.

Oil (depreciation allowances)
Ethanol (Archer Daniels Midland has such wonderful lobbyists)
Arts
Education (wouldn't be so bad if we got anything for it)
Mining (public land leases for cheap)
Forestry (we put in roads that cost more than the revenue from the
timber)
Ranching (don't get me started on cattle on national forest land)
Transportation (you think you pay for the roads through driving taxes?
They are subsidized by taxes on houses and purchases)
Real Estate (deductions for your mortgage)


I think you'd be hard pressed to find an industry that hasn't sold it's
support to a congresscritter of either party for some favor or other.
It's a sad state of affairs.

Skylune wrote:
I like Spencer, then, and the other private airports. That is how all GA
airports should be operated. As businesses. No tax money.

I'll go for that. Shortly after I don't pay taxes to support sports
arenas (millions of bucks to support lots of multimillionaires, and
regular guys get priced out of the stadium) and public art (the
national endowment for the arts is a national embarrassment) These are
businesses. They should only be paying taxes, not getting subsidies
and free rides.

wrote:
Skylune wrote:
What businesses run on annual government operating subsidies, and get
federal capital subsidies?

What other businesses need a federal "lifeline?"

For a couple decades now, I'm wondering what industries DON'T get
subsidies.

Computer software development. Dang, I picked the wrong industry to work
in!

Are there any subsidies or tax breaks specific to the restaurant industry
or any of the "hospitaility" industries like hotels, etc.?


Oil (depreciation allowances)
Ethanol (Archer Daniels Midland has such wonderful lobbyists)
Arts
Education (wouldn't be so bad if we got anything for it)
Mining (public land leases for cheap)
Forestry (we put in roads that cost more than the revenue from the
timber)
Ranching (don't get me started on cattle on national forest land)
Transportation (you think you pay for the roads through driving taxes?
They are subsidized by taxes on houses and purchases)
Real Estate (deductions for your mortgage)


I think you'd be hard pressed to find an industry that hasn't sold it's
support to a congresscritter of either party for some favor or other.
It's a sad state of affairs.