CRJ crash at KLEX:

And why does it matter?
You tell me. The submitter gave his reason, you suggested the real reason
might have been

It matters because you, the stickler for grammatical accuracy, asked a
general question (which was triggered by a specific context).

I don't think that in =this= case, something potentially fatal =was=
discovered (although I don't think this =wasn't= the case either - I
simply don't know). It =might= have been the case. I gave a possible
scenario where it =could= have been the case, even in =this= case. It's
exactly what you asked for (even if it might not be what you intended to
ask for).

What do you suppose the controller's response will be?

That depends on the reason the takeoff clearance was immediate, and (if
it's due to incoming traffic) how close it was. Cancelling the takeoff
clearance and telling the landing traffic to go around (if that's what
the issue is) comes to mind.

You're a controller. What would your response be?

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Jose wrote:


That depends on the reason the takeoff clearance was immediate, and (if
it's due to incoming traffic) how close it was. Cancelling the takeoff
clearance and telling the landing traffic to go around (if that's what
the issue is) comes to mind.

You're a controller. What would your response be?


The controller said the traffic was inside the marker. Presumably
the outer marker (6.5 miles from the threshold, the middle marker
would have been less than a half a mile, and inside the marker would
have been less than 30 seconds...not some time to be dinking around
on the runway).

"Ron Lee" wrote in message
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About one hour prior to sunrise.


Are you sure? The preliminary NTSB report gives the time as 6:07 EDT. An
online calculator gives the time of sunrise at KLEX on that date as 6:04:37
AM.

"John Theune" wrote in message
news:9y0Jg.38536$NF3.7763@trnddc05...

I just checked with web site for the Weather Channel and it shows sunrise
at being at 7:06 today. Was your on line calculator using GMT?


It gave the time as "6:04:37 AM".

"Ron Lee" wrote in message
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My sunrise program fives 706 AM for today and Airnav.com gives 7:07
AM. Verify time zone. (UTC-4)


It doesn't request the time zone as input or provide it in the output. I
believe the only input was the date and the location. I used KLEX as the
location and it provided a time of 6:04:37 AM as the time of sunrise.

Steven P. McNicoll schrieb:

I used KLEX as the
location and it provided a time of 6:04:37 AM as the time of sunrise.

The program probably doesn't honour daylight saving time.
http://www.gaisma.com/en/location/le...-kentucky.html

"Jose" wrote in message
et...

It matters because you, the stickler for grammatical accuracy, asked a
general question (which was triggered by a specific context).


You're contradicting yourself. It would have been a general question
without the quoted material, but the quoted material was there.



That depends on the reason the takeoff clearance was immediate, and (if
it's due to incoming traffic) how close it was. Cancelling the takeoff
clearance and telling the landing traffic to go around (if that's what the
issue is) comes to mind.


It was due to incoming traffic and the traffic was close enough to require
an immediate takeoff or wait for the traffic to land.



You're a controller. What would your response be?


"Unable. Cleared for immediate takeoff or exit the runway without delay."

In article . net,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

An online calculator gives the time of sunrise at
KLEX on that date as 6:04:37 AM.

Which online calculator did you use?

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"Stefan" wrote in message
. ..

The program probably doesn't honour daylight saving time.


Apparently, and thus not particularly useful.

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...

Which online calculator did you use?


I entered "sunrise calculator" on Google and it spat this:

http://www.exptech.com/sunrise.htm

I selected LEX and the date from the drop down menus, the "Daylight Time"
box is checked. It gives sunrise as 06:04:37 AM.

It seems odd that there is a "Daylight Time" box at all.