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  #141  
Old August 30th 06, 12:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default CRJ crash at KLEX:



U.S. Naval Observatory
Astronomical Applications Department


Sun and Moon Data for One Day
The following information is provided for Lexington, Fayette
County, Kentucky (longitude W84.5, latitude N38.1):

Sunday
27 August 2006 Eastern Daylight Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 6:36 a.m.
Sunrise 7:03 a.m.
Sun transit 1:39 p.m.
Sunset 8:15 p.m.
End civil twilight 8:42 p.m.

MOON
Moonset 9:33 p.m. on preceding
day
Moonrise 10:34 a.m.
Moon transit 4:19 p.m.
Moonset 9:54 p.m.
Moonrise 11:34 a.m. on following
day

Phase of the Moon on 27 August: waxing crescent with 13%
of the Moon's visible disk illuminated.

New Moon on 23 August 2006 at 3:10 p.m. Eastern Daylight
Time.




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Census Bureau map of Lexington area





"Bob Noel" wrote in
message
...
| In article
. net,
| "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:
|
| An online calculator gives the time of sunrise at
| KLEX on that date as 6:04:37 AM.
|
| Which online calculator did you use?
|
| --
| Bob Noel
| Looking for a sig the
| lawyers will hate
|


  #142  
Old August 30th 06, 12:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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This the best http://aa.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/aa_pap.pl



"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote
in message
ink.net...
|
| "Stefan" wrote in message
| . ..
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| The program probably doesn't honour daylight saving
time.
|
|
| Apparently, and thus not particularly useful.
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|


  #143  
Old August 30th 06, 12:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default CRJ crash at KLEX:

This will work better, http://aa.usno.navy.mil/ the link
below was to a results page and needs an input.



"Jim Macklin" wrote
in message news:h44Jg.6317$SZ3.1033@dukeread04...
| This the best http://aa.usno.navy.mil/cgi-bin/aa_pap.pl
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|
| "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote
| in message
|
ink.net...
||
|| "Stefan" wrote in message
|| . ..
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|| The program probably doesn't honour daylight saving
| time.
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|| Apparently, and thus not particularly useful.
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  #144  
Old August 30th 06, 12:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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"Jose" wrote in message
m...

No, you're wrong.


You're wrong again.


  #145  
Old August 30th 06, 12:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
soxinbox[_1_]
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Default CRJ crash at KLEX:

That would make 2 other pilots on board, you forgot the captain!

wrote in message
oups.com...
First Officer WAS the pilot ... and lived! There was another pilot
aboard, an AirTran pilot who was catching a ride to Atlanta to pilot a
flight.

Plane weighed 49,087 pounds and would have required 3,539 feet to
rotate.

The runway was 3,500 feet.

Three tire marks are in the grass at the end of runway.

Plane hit a "burm" and became airborne.

390 feet past the runway the plane struck a fence.

Cleared a barbed wire fence at 920 feet.

Hit a stand of trees and continued 900 feet beyond trees.

No skid marks on runway. Reverse thrusters not deployed. Breaking
spoilers not deployed.

Total elapsed time from when acceleration began to the end of the
cockpit voice recording: 29 seconds.

NTSB collecting and examining NOTAMS.



  #146  
Old August 30th 06, 01:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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Default CRJ crash at KLEX:

In article . net,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

Which online calculator did you use?


I entered "sunrise calculator" on Google and it spat this:

http://www.exptech.com/sunrise.htm

I selected LEX and the date from the drop down menus, the "Daylight Time"
box is checked. It gives sunrise as 06:04:37 AM.

It seems odd that there is a "Daylight Time" box at all.


It is also odd that it doesn't agree with:

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html

--
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  #147  
Old August 30th 06, 02:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Owen[_3_]
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Default CRJ crash at KLEX:



Jay Beckman wrote:

"Jose" wrote in message
et...
SUGGEST POSSIBLE WARNING PAGE (SIMILAR TO
HOUSTON HOBBY) TO CLARIFY MULTIPLE RWY ENDS.


What does this mean? Where would the page go? What would it say?

Jose


The first page of their Jep binders? In bold letters on any/all SIDs for
KLEX?

"NOTICE TO CREW OPERATING OUT OF KLEX, Lexington, Kentucky"

CLOSE PROXIMITY OF RWY 22 and RWY 26

As the departure ends of RWY 22 and RWY 26 are in very close proximity to
each other, exercise extreme caution and confirm visually and by reference
to flight instruments that you are on RWY 22. RWY 26 UNUSABLE for turbine
aircraft use.


Why should Rwy 26 be unusable for turbine aircraft? It is 3,500 feet long and
plenty long. Geez if you're going to ban turbines from 3,500 ft runways, the
Citations using my home airport would have to go elsewhere because 3,500 is
the longest runway. How about just banning aircraft from using the runway if
they need a longer one? Wait, I think that's already covered somewhere.....

  #148  
Old August 30th 06, 02:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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Default CRJ crash at KLEX:

You're wrong again.

This is just contradiction, and I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.

Jose
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  #149  
Old August 30th 06, 02:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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"Jose" wrote in message
. net...

This is just contradiction, and I'm not allowed to argue unless you've
paid.


You're not capable of argument.


  #150  
Old August 30th 06, 03:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
john smith
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Default CRJ crash at KLEX:

In article et,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Ron Lee" wrote in message
...

About one hour prior to sunrise.


Are you sure? The preliminary NTSB report gives the time as 6:07 EDT. An
online calculator gives the time of sunrise at KLEX on that date as 6:04:37
AM.


Eastern Standard Time. LEX is now on Eastern Daylight Savings Time.
 




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