Shadin Fuel flow

I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching Shadin's
DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that have had a
Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.

My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement of our
Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The original
fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year old
copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially comfortable.

Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install manual. They
do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the unit.
I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this project into
an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual, I'd be
grateful.

Thanks,
Jim

"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching Shadin's
DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that have had
a
Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.

My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement of our
Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The original
fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year old
copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially
comfortable.

Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install manual.
They
do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the unit.
I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this project
into
an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual, I'd be
grateful.

Thanks,
Jim

I e-mailed you a copy, let me know if you get it.

Allen

Thanks Allen, remove the nospams from my address and it should get here.
Jim

"Allen" wrote in message
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"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching
Shadin's
DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that have
had
a
Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.

My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement of
our
Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The original
fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year old
copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially
comfortable.

Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install manual.
They
do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the unit.
I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this project
into
an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual, I'd
be
grateful.

Thanks,
Jim

I e-mailed you a copy, let me know if you get it.

Allen

Did that, it will be a .pdf

Allen

"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
Thanks Allen, remove the nospams from my address and it should get here.
Jim

"Allen" wrote in message
...

"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching
Shadin's
DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that have
had
a
Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.

My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement of
our
Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The
original
fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year old
copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially
comfortable.

Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install manual.
They
do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the
unit.
I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this project
into
an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual, I'd
be
grateful.

Thanks,
Jim

I e-mailed you a copy, let me know if you get it.

Allen

Jim Burns wrote:
I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching Shadin's
DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that have had a
Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.

My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement of our
Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The original
fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year old
copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially comfortable.

Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install manual. They
do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the unit.
I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this project into
an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual, I'd be
grateful.

Thanks,
Jim


Jim,
I have one in my planes. It is a relatively simple install. Talks to my
GPS and tells me when I am going to run out of fuel....

Michelle

Thanks Allen,
I got it.
I failed to add that I'm specifically interested in the transducer install
manual. The transducers are not addressed in the indicator head install
manual.
Jim

"Allen" wrote in message
...
Did that, it will be a .pdf

Allen

"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
Thanks Allen, remove the nospams from my address and it should get here.
Jim

"Allen" wrote in message
...

"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching
Shadin's
DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that have
had
a
Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.

My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement of
our
Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The
original
fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year
old
copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially
comfortable.

Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install manual.
They
do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the
unit.
I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this
project
into
an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual,
I'd
be
grateful.

Thanks,
Jim

I e-mailed you a copy, let me know if you get it.

Allen

I'll look for that.

Allen

"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
Thanks Allen,
I got it.
I failed to add that I'm specifically interested in the transducer install
manual. The transducers are not addressed in the indicator head install
manual.
Jim

"Allen" wrote in message
...
Did that, it will be a .pdf

Allen

"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
Thanks Allen, remove the nospams from my address and it should get
here.
Jim

"Allen" wrote in message
...

"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching
Shadin's
DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that
have
had
a
Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.

My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement
of
our
Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The
original
fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year
old
copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially
comfortable.

Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install
manual.
They
do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the
unit.
I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this
project
into
an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual,
I'd
be
grateful.

Thanks,
Jim

I e-mailed you a copy, let me know if you get it.

Allen

On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:16:14 -0500, "Jim Burns"
wrote:

Thanks Allen,
I got it.
I failed to add that I'm specifically interested in the transducer install
manual. The transducers are not addressed in the indicator head install
manual.
Jim

On a Lycoming, (and some TCM"S) it's usually not a real big deal to
install the transducers.

Typically, you replace one flex line with two shorter ones with the
transducer and a couple of AN fittings that equal the same length as
the old line.

Have mounted them semi-rigid to an engine mount, and have left them
hanging in space with the adel clamps or koroseal securing the fuel
lines securing the whole mess.

The "hardest" part of the job is running the wires from the transducer
to the gage. Don't remember anymore how many conductors there are, but
we always used a multi-conductor shielded wire run with the shielding
terminated to ground at one end only.

Is probably not a bid deal on an Aztruck, but some installs tend to
pick up interference from other systems (an external ignition
vibrator/exciter is a baddie) that mucks with your flow
numbers/totalizer features.

TC

Thanks TC,
I've read about the interference issues and will keep that in mind. Looks
like 3 wires from the transducer to the indicator... 1 signal wire, 1 power
wire, 1 ground, wristlocked and sleeved at the transducer.

Running the wires from the firewall through the nacelle and wing won't be a
problem as I became vary familiar with that routing last month when we
installed copper starter/battery cables.

I haven't found any mounting or plumbing instructions for the transducers,
so your info is appreciated.

Thanks,

Jim

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:16:14 -0500, "Jim Burns"
wrote:

Thanks Allen,
I got it.
I failed to add that I'm specifically interested in the transducer
install
manual. The transducers are not addressed in the indicator head install
manual.
Jim

On a Lycoming, (and some TCM"S) it's usually not a real big deal to
install the transducers.

Typically, you replace one flex line with two shorter ones with the
transducer and a couple of AN fittings that equal the same length as
the old line.

Have mounted them semi-rigid to an engine mount, and have left them
hanging in space with the adel clamps or koroseal securing the fuel
lines securing the whole mess.

The "hardest" part of the job is running the wires from the transducer
to the gage. Don't remember anymore how many conductors there are, but
we always used a multi-conductor shielded wire run with the shielding
terminated to ground at one end only.

Is probably not a bid deal on an Aztruck, but some installs tend to
pick up interference from other systems (an external ignition
vibrator/exciter is a baddie) that mucks with your flow
numbers/totalizer features.

TC

I owned a turbo Saratoga with a Shadin, and have flown a lot in another
identical airplane with a Shadin. Work fine. One strange thing in both
airplanes is that turning on the electric boost fuel pump causes a decrease
in the fuel flow indicated on the Shadin, by anywhere from 0.1 to 1.0 gph.
We spent a lot of effort in removing elbows, insulating the transducer and
fuel lines, relocating things, never changed it.

I always thought it was weird.

Stan



"Jim Burns" wrote in message
...
I'm currently in the process of obtaining quotes and researching Shadin's
DigiFlo-L fuel flow system. If there are any group members that have had
a
Shadin installed in their airplane, I'd love to hear from you.

My primary reason for choosing the Shadin over other fuel flow
meters/systems is that the Shadin is STC'd for primary replacement of our
Piper factory original fuel pressure type flow indicators. The original
fuel flow gauges actually have small fuel lines attached. 40 year old
copper fuel lines inside the cockpit do not make me especially
comfortable.

Shadin has been impossible to deal with concerning an install manual.
They
do not post them on their website and do not sell them without the unit.
I'd love to get a copy before I spend the money and throw this project
into
an A&P/AI's lap. If anybody can help me locate an install manual, I'd be
grateful.

Thanks,
Jim