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No more "Left Downwind"?



 
 
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  #161  
Old September 4th 06, 04:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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Default No more "Left Downwind"?


"john smith" wrote in message
...

East-west runway,magnetic compass heading affected by ANDS


The magnetic compass isn't needed to do a last check of the runway
alignment.


  #162  
Old September 4th 06, 04:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default No more "Left Downwind"?

Thanks.



"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
ink.net...
| You can ascend about 1000'/day It works out to a little
less when you go
| really high (above 20,000'). The only risk coming down is
to avoid getting
| dehydrated as you are prone to clots (this is a risk when
at altitude too).
|
|
| Mike
| MU-2
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:bJKKg.6828$SZ3.1875@dukeread04...
| How many months do you live at altitude, before climbing
the
| next 5,000 feet? In other words, as I understand, a
healthy
| person can climb, 5 to 10 thousand feet above their
living
| altitude before hypoxia become serious. If you live at
| 10,000 feet for 6 months to a year, your body adjust and
| adapts to that pressure and oxygen levels, you then can
| climb or fly higher. If you return to sea level you may
be
| "super charged" or even get sick for a short while until
you
| readapt.
|
| In the 1940 and 50s, I understand it took many moths for
| Everest climbers to portage several higher and higher
base
| camps, before the actual assault on the top.
|
|
| "Mike Rapoport" wrote in
message
|
ink.net...
| |
| | "Jay Honeck" wrote in message
| |
|
ups.com...
| | I managed five landings without rolling past the
| numbers with calm air
| | the
| | other day. Making really short AND smooth landings
AND
| hitting the exact
| | aimpoint has proved elusive. I can usually
accomplish
| any two but not
| | all
| | three. It gives me additional respect for the
pilots
| demoing Helios at
| | OSH.
| |
| | I can't imagine what flying something like that must
be
| like. Very
| | challenging, it sounds like!
| |
| |
| | It is always difficult to get every bit of performance
out
| of an aircraft.
| | Usually we make it easier by using approach speeds
that
| are high and settle
| | onto the runway. To put it down on the first foot of
| pavement at the
| | absolute minimium speed is a challenge in anything.
| |
| |
| |
| | I was
| | climbing in the Andes early in the year and then
made
| an attempt on the
| | North side of Everest in the spring. I reached
25,000'
| without O2 and
| | then
| | bailed for a variety of reasons.
| |
| | Um, isn't life pretty much unsustainable at that
| altitude without
| | oxygen?
| |
| | Depends on what you consider unsustainable. The
highest
| permanant
| | settlement is about 18,000'. Personally I felt that I
was
| constantly
| | deteriorating above 21,000'.
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|


  #163  
Old September 6th 06, 04:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...

Because I operate out of KSNA, that's an interesting bit of (old) news
to me. I can't put my hands on an old chart at the moment. Can you
tell me how the MCAS El Toro Class D airspace was structured if it
didn't reach the surface?


I could, but since I can put my hands on old charts I'll just scan the
portion of the Los Angeles sectional from 1987 and 1997 showing El Toro and
post them in alt.binaries.pictures.aviation.


  #164  
Old September 6th 06, 04:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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Default No more "Left Downwind"?

I could, but since I can put my hands on old charts I'll just scan the
portion of the Los Angeles sectional from 1987 and 1997 showing El Toro and
post them in alt.binaries.pictures.aviation.


You have old charts? Do you perchance have the SF sectional from around
1980?

Jose
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  #165  
Old September 6th 06, 05:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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"Jose" wrote in message
m...

You have old charts?


Many.



Do you perchance have the SF sectional from around 1980?


I have San Francisco sectionals from 1987, 1965, 1958, 1947, and 1943.


  #166  
Old September 6th 06, 06:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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Do you perchance have the SF sectional from around 1980?
I have San Francisco sectionals from 1987, 1965, 1958, 1947, and 1943.


If it's convenient for you, I wouldn't mind a scan of the area (1987 and
1965) south of Salinas. In 1981 flew into an airport there (which no
longer exists) with the unique name of "Skypark airport", and was
wondering exactly where it was situated. Alas, I did not save the chart.

Jose
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  #167  
Old September 6th 06, 06:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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"Jose" wrote in message
. net...

If it's convenient for you, I wouldn't mind a scan of the area (1987 and
1965) south of Salinas. In 1981 flew into an airport there (which no
longer exists) with the unique name of "Skypark airport", and was
wondering exactly where it was situated. Alas, I did not save the chart.


I could do it, but I don't think that's where the airport you remember was
located.

Prior to circa 1968 when the new series began sectional charts were printed
on just one side. Until around 1950 the reverse was just blank, but about
that time aeronautical data began being put on the back. The data included
aerodromes that appeared on the front of the chart. There is a "Skypark"
listed on the back of the 1965 sectional, the coordinates are 37 03-122 02,
which puts it about four miles north of Santa Cruz. I can scan that area
for you, but you'll find much more information he

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/CA/...html#santacruz


  #168  
Old September 6th 06, 06:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Beckman
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Default No more "Left Downwind"?


"Jose" wrote in message
. net...
Do you perchance have the SF sectional from around 1980?

I have San Francisco sectionals from 1987, 1965, 1958, 1947, and 1943.


If it's convenient for you, I wouldn't mind a scan of the area (1987 and
1965) south of Salinas. In 1981 flew into an airport there (which no
longer exists) with the unique name of "Skypark airport", and was
wondering exactly where it was situated. Alas, I did not save the chart.

Jose



Jose,

Have you seen this website?

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/index.htm

Didn't see a Skypark Airport but I only skimmed the CA entries...with a
little digging you might find it on this site.

Jay B


  #169  
Old September 6th 06, 06:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default No more "Left Downwind"?

http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid...02&sa=N&tab=wl

looks like the remains of an airport.




"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote
in message
nk.net...
|
| "Jose" wrote in message
| . net...
|
| If it's convenient for you, I wouldn't mind a scan of
the area (1987 and
| 1965) south of Salinas. In 1981 flew into an airport
there (which no
| longer exists) with the unique name of "Skypark
airport", and was
| wondering exactly where it was situated. Alas, I did
not save the chart.
|
|
| I could do it, but I don't think that's where the airport
you remember was
| located.
|
| Prior to circa 1968 when the new series began sectional
charts were printed
| on just one side. Until around 1950 the reverse was just
blank, but about
| that time aeronautical data began being put on the back.
The data included
| aerodromes that appeared on the front of the chart. There
is a "Skypark"
| listed on the back of the 1965 sectional, the coordinates
are 37 03-122 02,
| which puts it about four miles north of Santa Cruz. I can
scan that area
| for you, but you'll find much more information he
|
|
http://www.airfields-freeman.com/CA/...html#santacruz
|
|


  #170  
Old September 6th 06, 07:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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Default No more "Left Downwind"?


"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:qUDLg.7093$SZ3.2345@dukeread04...


http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid...02&sa=N&tab=wl

looks like the remains of an airport.


Did you examine the map view? To the west of the old runway are "Skypark
Drive", "Piper Cub Court", "Navigator Drive", and "Aviator Court".


 




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