Geoff Peck

On 09/08/06 16:16, Andrew Sarangan wrote:
wrote:


This is sad... I wonder why he chose to cross the Rockies at a spot
where the mountains are so high?

Actually, it is not such a bad place to cross. From Salida, you follow
the valley northwest to Leadville, then turn west across a pass to
Glenwood Springs. After that you are home free. I have gone this way
several times, and this is the route we took when I took the Mountain
Flying Course from the Colorado Pilots Association.


I just took a mountain flying course from a guy in Alamosa, which
started with a landing in Salida, then on to Leadville (and on from
there).

The crossing was very easy (although we were in a Cessna 206 Turbo).



--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA

The NTSB report lists it as a "forced landing" so he was perhaps having
engine troubles. In that case flaps and gear down would make sense.

--Dan


Jay Honeck wrote:
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...10X01143&key=1

Thanks for the link, but it seems to ask more questions than it
answers. Was he flying into the canyon purposefully? Why was his
landing gear down?

I suppose we might never know, unless the survivor can remember the
details?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Mark Hansen wrote:

This is sad... I wonder why he chose to cross the Rockies at a spot
where the mountains are so high?

Actually, it is not such a bad place to cross. From Salida, you follow
the valley northwest to Leadville, then turn west across a pass to
Glenwood Springs. After that you are home free. I have gone this way
several times, and this is the route we took when I took the Mountain
Flying Course from the Colorado Pilots Association.


I just took a mountain flying course from a guy in Alamosa, which
started with a landing in Salida, then on to Leadville (and on from
there).

From the report the crash was at Maysville almost due west of Salida.
It appears that he was trying to go over Monarch Pass. It is also
interesting that the provided time from departure until crash (16
miles away) was 45 minutes.

Had he gone NNW towards Buena Vista and Leadville he could have
climbed over the valley.

Ron Lee

On 8 Sep 2006 17:14:57 -0700, "Dan" wrote in
.com:

The NTSB report lists it as a "forced landing" so he was perhaps having
engine troubles.


http://www.themountainmail.com/main....ArticleID=8625
There was no fuel leakage or fire when the plane crashed.

From the report the crash was at Maysville almost due west of Salida.
It appears that he was trying to go over Monarch Pass. It is also
interesting that the provided time from departure until crash (16
miles away) was 45 minutes.

Ron Lee

Apparently the Monarch Pass route is incorrect. From another article
"The crash site is surrounded by Pomeroy Mountain, Calico Mountain and
Sewanee Peak."

That is about 10 sm north of Monarch Pass and does not appear to be a
direction that minimizes exposure to mountainous terrain.

Ron Lee

But - consider that many of those aircraft arriving are not even used to
flying in controlled airspace - and now they are controlled and landing
staggered, short and long with tremendous pressure to get it right and
clear the runway, plus given the fixed dates of the event, some are
perhaps flying when under different circumstances they would have
awaited better conditions - I really don't think that their accident
stats are out of line.

Granted the system might need work, but I don't think the arrival procedures
are the cause of many accidents at all. There was a stall/spin on the
grounds of Airventure this year (a Europa), but you very seldom hear of
accidents happening in the "controlled" airspace. Most accidents are in
Kentucky or Iowa or some such while in route.

You will usually hear of someone putting it in the lake due to running out
of fuel, but again, not really an arrival procedure problem (well, not for
the rest of us ).

"RN" == Ron Natalie writes:
RN Geoff's packing lists (he didn't
RN pack light either in the plane

This may have led to his demise.

("Andrew Sarangan" wrote)
Very sad news. Thanks for sharing the information.

I haven't seen much discussion around here about this, but Geoff Peck
was killed in a plane crash on his way home from Oshkosh this year.
We all owe him our thanks - Geoff was the founder of the rec. aviation
groups.

Condolences to his family and friends


Yes, very sad.


Montblack

tony roberts wrote:
I haven't seen much discussion around here about this, but Geoff Peck
was killed in a plane crash on his way home from Oshkosh this year.
We all owe him our thanks - Geoff was the founder of the rec. aviation
groups.

Condolences to his family and friends

Tony

Oh my god No!

Geoff took this newly minted pilot for a ride around San Francisco Bay
when I was out there on Business in the early 1990s. We landed at Half
Moon Bay and had a very nice dinner.
When he came to DC area we had dinner.... At the time I worked for
Contel. I was the one who put the system on the Internet, he was the one
who wrote the plain language translator.


He will be missed. :-(

Michelle P