Jep p or NACO Charts?

Tim,

This is were Jeppesen shines in the high-end birds that have
JeppView/FliteDeck with geo-referenced electronic maps. The airport
diagram
becomes an awesome ground operations tool with that little green wedgie
moving along the chart.

Is that JeppView 3.0? I think the previous version lacked the "Moving-Map"
functionality.

Regards

Kai

Kai Glaesner wrote:

Tim,

This is were Jeppesen shines in the high-end birds that have
JeppView/FliteDeck with geo-referenced electronic maps. The airport
diagram
becomes an awesome ground operations tool with that little green wedgie
moving along the chart.

Is that JeppView 3.0? I think the previous version lacked the "Moving-Map"
functionality.

Regards

Kai

I haven't used JeppView 3.0, which has FliteDeck integrated and includes en
route charts. But, in the previous version of FliteDeck the map did not move,
rather the green wedgie moves on the fixed map. And, that is how you want to
see it for ground operations.

wrote:
The airport diagram
becomes an awesome ground operations tool with that little green wedgie
moving along the chart.

little green wedgie? That sounds like it would definitely keep you moving.

I have used Jepp charts since I got my rating several years ago. I have
found that I do not fly in all the areas that my subscription covers (TX
and the surrounding states). The cost was going up, the constant
updates, etc.

I recently completed Rod Machado's book titled something like Instrument
Pilots Survival Guide. I found it to be excellent and he compares the
Jepps to the NACO. After talking to a friend that fly a lot of
instrument time in his A36 with NACO charts, I called Sportys and signed
up for a subscription to the North TX, OK, and AR areas. If I need more
I can just buy that set.

I once planned a trip to Boston and bought all the Jepp trip packs. It
was a fortune and the time to unbundle all the paperwork. (Never made
the trip).

I let you know about a year from now if I made a good decision.

Ross

Judah wrote:

Last week I finally got checked out in the club's Arrow.

During the training, the instructor noticed that I was using the NACO
charts and plates.

He uses the Jeppeson stuff and excitedly indicated that it is far superior
to the NACO charts. He gave me a few reasons, but when I looked at it for
myself, I just can't figure out how to justify spending all that extra
money for really not all that extra features.

So what do people here think? Are the Jepp charts worth shelling out the
extra money?

On 12/1/04 10:44 PM, Blanche wrote the following:
Mitty wrote:

[snip]


Jepp punch it, and you have your easy-to-handle plates on good quality paper.
It's much, much easier than trying to download plates for yourself.
(Steel Jepp
type punches are $20 from Franklin Covey. $40-50 from Jepp or Sporty's.
And the
Covey ones are good quality and smaller.)


Why? Any office supply store has the 5.5 x 8.5 3-ring binders which are
*exactly* the same size as Jepp binders -- just not with 7 rings.
Adjust a 3-ring punch for the smaller binder and punch your own.
A 3-hole punch ranges from $5 on up.


Matter of taste, mostly. But 7-hole punched paper is less likely to tear out of
the binder, so there is some justification.

That's not what they told me when I was an employee of Boeing. The discounts
are on everything but the subscriptions. Maybe it's different when you work
for Jepp directly. Do you know specifics Blanche?

Marco
"Blanche" wrote in message
...
In article , Marco Leon mmleon(at)yahoo.com
wrote:
[snip]
(no affiliation with Jeppesen. Although, even their employees don't get
discounts on charts...)

Yes they do.

If you go with www.airchart.com (howie keefe etc), you can get the
WHOLE 48 states for a year for $259 including updates. And the updates
work. Just file the updates (throw out the old updates) and scan them
for changes on your approaches or enroutes. Combine that with all the
online stuff and you have all you need.

You can get an area for a year (like all the NE) for a low price of
$60.

I have used the system and it works. I actually like the bound govt
charts as my book usually ends up on the floor, the charts don't get
"moved around" in the book, and my alternates are in the same book as
my destination.

Check out the review on
http://www.avweb.com/news/reviews/182599-1.html

I am in no way affiliated with aircharts or any other charting
service. Just a customer.

Their VFR atlas is great also.

The www.airchart.com, Howie Keefe system works fine and is a LOT less
expensive. You can get a year of the whole 48 states for $360 or so,
and areas like the NE for $60. This includes (text) updates, but it
works. I am not affilated with aircharts at all, but I have used them
and I can tell you they work.

Their VFR and IFR Atlases are really good too.

In article ,
(Doug) wrote:

The www.airchart.com, Howie Keefe system works fine and is a LOT less
expensive. You can get a year of the whole 48 states for $360 or so,
and areas like the NE for $60. This includes (text) updates, but it
works. I am not affilated with aircharts at all, but I have used them
and I can tell you they work.

Their VFR and IFR Atlases are really good too.

If I understand it correctly, you get a new SIAP book once a year, and
every 2 weeks get a cumulative list of updates to that book. What
happens if halfway through the year, your book is so beat up that you
need to buy a new one? The updates sheet you're getting is now relative
to an issue of the book other than the one you're using. How does that
work out?

I looked at the airchart system a while ago, and decided I didn't like
the idea. Now that SIAP's are available to download for free on the web
and the CNX-80 handles most of the chart work anyway, I'm starting to
think it makes sense. I'd skip the chart atlas (which I don't like) and
just get the SIAP stuff.

In a previous article, Roy Smith said:
[Howie Keefe Airchart Systems]
If I understand it correctly, you get a new SIAP book once a year, and
every 2 weeks get a cumulative list of updates to that book. What
happens if halfway through the year, your book is so beat up that you
need to buy a new one? The updates sheet you're getting is now relative
to an issue of the book other than the one you're using. How does that
work out?

Well, if the update says "change the MDA to 2450" and the MDA is already
2450, then you don't need to do the update, do you?


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"The thing you don't check is the thing that will kill you."
-- Rick Grant (quoting RCAF pilot training)