Dress Code

On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 01:14:45 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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I've not seen Steve mention his legs. He said in Message-ID:
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I know I can be replaced tomorrow by someone younger, stronger,
and cheaper, but I cannot be replaced by anyone smarter.

I presume that last fact is a result of his IQ score falling at the
top of the range in his job description.

Perhaps he can dance a cleaver Highland jig as compensation for any
criticism of his legs you may find. :-)


I've the legs of a champion caber tosser.


Oh. So I guess we'll never now how they look.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...4c/Caber_2.jpg

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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Insubordination is refusing to obey orders. No one ever said you
can't make fun of your CEO. Ours has really bad hair, and we all know
it and have made comments. It doesn't mean we deserve to be fired.

If there is a corporate policy against such comments you could be
terminated. It also falls under harassment which is certainly a hot
button of recent years.

Harassment may be against company policy (at least for the lower
echelons) but it certainly isn't illegal/a-legal-issue (which is the
topic...isn't it?)

It certainly is illegal. There have been a number of landmark cases with
significant judgements.

Yes, for sexual (until MonicaGate) or racial/ethnic, etc., but not just
general harassment.


Well, no. You need to brush up on current regulations.

Insobordination is not calling someone a name. I can call my boss
whatever I want as long as when he says jump, I jump. I can protest my
having to jump, but I jump.

So, let's you and me put together a web page devoted to insulting and
inviting ridicule upon your current supervisor, all in the interest of
"free speech". Then let's publicize it to your co-workers. Let's see
how long you are employed.

If it's longer than 72 hours, you clearly work for the government.

Not really. My ex-husband once worked for a major pharmacutical company
and they were doing an efficiency study. The team came upon a
researcher sleeping in his office. When they reported this to upper
management they responded with "YOU DIDN'T WAKE HIM UP DID YOU????".
Apparently this researcher came to work everyday and slept all day.
Once every few years he'd wake up, write down a formula and make many
millions for the company.

That's funny. But the company should've sent him home, and paid him as
a contractor, rather than leave him in place as a horrible example for
all to see. That's the kind of performance example that can seriously
harm employee morale, output and work ethic.

You live in a service industry mindset.

America would be a much better place if our government would remember
that they *are* a service industry.

If you think wearing business attire while working in a tower is
important I suggest you look at your priorities. I want my controllers
to be as comfortable as possible. I think we should require the
government to issue comfy sweats and slippers to all.

I guess I don't really care what controllers wear. What I *do* care
about is that they think their supervisors shouldn't be allowed to set
dress code guidelines. That is indicative of a serious management
deficit inside the FAA.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination".

Yanno, I can see you don't like the impediments the government puts in
front of you as a business trying to do your thing. It can lead to alot
of resentment, because you don't get to do what you want, and what you
"know is right".

Darned right it does. I am daily faced with having to make bad choices
because of the bald-faced lies that are sold to us under the guise of
"government services", and then am forced to pay exorbitant taxes to
that same government so that they may perpetuate these lies upon their
ignorant citizenry.

Think about this: I am forced to pay my government more than Mary, me,
and all of our other employees COMBINED make each year. That's right,
the highest paid entitity in our little business isn't the employees,
it isn't the mean old power company, it isn't the rich-jerk-off bank --
it's our GOVERNMENT.

That is sick, and wrong, and needs to change.

And those taxes have gone up 10% each year since we opened four years
ago. That's not a typo. TEN PERCENT ANNUALLY.

If you'd like to be further sickened, here is a list of the taxes we
pay every day:

- Sales: 5%
- Hotel/Motel: 7%
- Property tax $6000 per MONTH
- Federal income tax withholding from our employees
- Federal payroll tax
- Social Security income tax withholding from our employees
- Social Security payroll tax.
- Medicare withholding from our employees
- Medicare payroll tax
- Federal Unemployment Tax
- Iowa Workforce Development tax (unemployment in disguise)
- 5% sales tax on anything and everything else we buy
- Motor vehicle tax on all fuel

But I suspect that the rest of the citizens really
appreciate the restraints you are under, because left to their own
devices, businesses do not care a whit about their surroundings, except
inasmuch as it affects their bottom line.

Yes, I'm sure they appreciate the fact that all of this money is being
extorted from them in ways that are diabolically invisible to them.
Our government has become experts at running the biggest scam in
history -- taxation without any evidence that it's occurring. But it
IS occurring, and it's causing great harm to all of us.

If you ever REALLY want to know why our economy is stuck in the
doldrums, or why all the good jobs have gone overseas, go back and
re-read that list of taxes, above.

It is =private=business= that is lining their pockets and perpetuating
their own existence.

That is such crap, I can't even begin to address it. Your concept of
what private businesses can and cannot do is so warped, I couldn't
possibly know where to start in an argument about it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I guess I don't really care what controllers wear.

Ok, we agree there.

What I *do* care
about is that they think their supervisors shouldn't be allowed to set
dress code guidelines.

Well, I certainly think they shouldn't set dress code guidelines. While
that's not the same as "shouldn't be allowed to...", it's part of the
picture. Having management waste time, energy, and political capital on
trivia is indicative of management that doesn't care how good the
"product" is (see the first response, above), but rather, cares more
that they are perceived as "the top dog - the big banana - el mucho
macho...". This is a management that sees its first job as bossing
people around, rather than being a leader.

=This= is the management deficit inside the FAA - management that cares
about trivia and is on a power trip.

Jose
--
"Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where
it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

I am daily faced with having to make bad choices
because of the bald-faced lies that are sold to
us under the guise of "government services"...

I resent bald faced lies told to me by my government with my tax dollars
too. But the ones I resent are the ones that lead to the deaths of
thousands of American soldiers. It's my tax money too. But that will
get us off the track, won't it.

As for the "bad choices", name three "bad choices" you had to make
because of these lies.

I am forced to pay my government more than Mary, me,
and all of our other employees COMBINED make each year.

Maybe you should pay your employees more.

Seriously. Do Mary and your employees keep your hotel safe from warring
infidels? From maurauding looters? Do they supply you with clean water
and weather data for you to give out free to your clients? Did they
build you a runway and an air traffic control system so that people
could fly into your hotel? Did they do any scientific research? Did
they build the internet? Did they ensure that the future voters get an
education, and actually deliver it? If they did, then maybe they
=would= deserve more money than the governmnet. Yanno, you jump up and
down about being patriotic, but you don't appreciate at all what this
country has done for you, first and foremost, to give you the chance to
build your business in the first place.

If you'd like to be further sickened...

That doesn't make me sick. It is the price of being a citizen of this
Great Country. It doesn't come free. It is not an entitlement. What
makes me sick is people who whine that they shouldn't have to pay for
these things.

If you ever REALLY want to know why our economy is stuck in the
doldrums, or why all the good jobs have gone overseas, go back and
re-read that list of taxes, above.

Don't be silly. All I have to do is look at the salaries of American
workers, and the salaries of Chinese workers doing the same thing.

...taxation without any evidence that it's occurring.

Inflation is the biggest scam here. Think about what it means to buy
something, have its value go up exactly in line with inflation, and then
sell it. You make a huge profit, but are in the same position as
before. And you pay tax on this paper profit with real money. Yes,
there are scams in government. Private enterprise is not free of scams,
and neither are private individuals.

That is such crap, I can't even begin to address it. Your concept of
what private businesses can and cannot do is so warped, I couldn't
possibly know where to start in an argument about it.

It is not at all crap, which is why you can't address it. Do you
=really= disagree with the statement: "Left to their own devices,
businesses do not care a whit about their surroundings, except inasmuch
as it affects their bottom line."?

Business exists for one purpose only: To make money.

Jose
--
"Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where
it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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Harassment may be against company policy (at least for the lower
echelons) but it certainly isn't illegal/a-legal-issue (which is the
topic...isn't it?)

It certainly is illegal. There have been a number of landmark cases
with significant judgements.

Yes, for sexual (until MonicaGate) or racial/ethnic, etc., but not just
general harassment.


Well, no. You need to brush up on current regulations.

I hope you're right, because it might get me out from a contract with a full
blown p&*$&#@ck that I'd rather not do business with (his people are so
uptight they're making dumb mistakes).


--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO (MTJ)

"Useful Idiot" wrote:

Yanno, I can see you don't like the impediments the government puts in
front of you as a business trying to do your thing. It can lead to alot
of resentment, because you don't get to do what you want, and what you
"know is right".

Statist dupe.

Some good points, some lame, not much about aviation, but the following is
priceless:

wrote in message ...
...I'm in good health and condition for my age (other than a back problem
that's work related, but manageable, so far). I prefer jumping off a
mountain with a hang glider strapped to my back over taking my life
savings and ...

("Jose" wrote)
I had reset my format to not wrap. Hard returns can be a pain, and I
didn't think there were many people with readers that don't autowrap. I'm
not familiar with Agent, so can't help you on that end, but I've reset it
again to wrap at 72.


Jose, your post haven't made much sense to me these past few weeks, either.

Wordwrap issues?
No, that part's fine. :-)


Montblack