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NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...



 
 
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  #191  
Old October 3rd 06, 11:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Stefan
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

Larry Dighera schrieb:

am not superman I still needed to fly the plane.


Was it not equipped with an auto pilot?


Probably linked to the G1000...
  #192  
Old October 3rd 06, 11:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

Stefan wrote:
Larry Dighera schrieb:

am not superman I still needed to fly the plane.


Was it not equipped with an auto pilot?


Probably linked to the G1000...


The 172 I flew with the G1000, it was linked.

Besides, after that avionics failure, I'm not sure I'd trust anything else.
  #193  
Old October 3rd 06, 11:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Montblack[_1_]
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("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
Let's see. Single Female Pilot, Low self esteem issues. You are aware this
isn't match.com aren't you.



I don't know, Larry's been talking up a storm about intellect, lately
.....again.

http://simple-iq.com/


Montblack :-)

  #194  
Old October 3rd 06, 11:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

To clarify my earlier post: Go ahead and blame Garmin ( which may or may not be right ) but don't use this failure as a reason not to have advanced avionics in aircraft.

Software that reboots the entire instrumentation panel because of a
single bad input is not "advanced".

Jose
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  #195  
Old October 4th 06, 12:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Theune
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

Jose wrote:
To clarify my earlier post: Go ahead and blame Garmin ( which may or
may not be right ) but don't use this failure as a reason not to have
advanced avionics in aircraft.


Software that reboots the entire instrumentation panel because of a
single bad input is not "advanced".

Jose

and as had been pointed out by a number of people, there is no solid
evidence that make it clear that the reboots where caused by the out of
range sensor. Even the original story said the fuel displayed displayed
red x before other system failed and eventually rebooted the overall
system. Even it the G1000 is a bad design/system, it's still no reason
to say that we must stay with steam gauges.

John
  #196  
Old October 4th 06, 12:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
NW_Pilot
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...


"Emily" wrote in message
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Stefan wrote:
Larry Dighera schrieb:

am not superman I still needed to fly the plane.


Was it not equipped with an auto pilot?


Probably linked to the G1000...


The 172 I flew with the G1000, it was linked.

Besides, after that avionics failure, I'm not sure I'd trust anything
else.



Yes, it was coupled to the G1000 and was useless!


  #197  
Old October 4th 06, 01:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

Even it the G1000 is a bad design/system, it's still no reason to say that we must stay with steam gauges.

No, it is not.

It would however mean that the G1000 is a bad design/system.

More to the point, it is an =attractive= bad design/system. That's the
nub. Glass is really sexy, and because of this, can be marketed =even=
if it's a bad design/system. One should be suspicious of glass =for=
that reason.

Jose
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  #198  
Old October 4th 06, 01:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Judah
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Larry Dighera wrote in
:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 11:23:15 GMT, Judah wrote in
:

Larry Dighera wrote in
m:

snip

I'd buy all that if your very last post on this board wasn't...


"Have you ever taxied a high wing in 55 knot winds?"

What useful INFORMATION did that provide?


Are you familiar with Socratic debate*?

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_method


Are you aware that the Jews have the monopoly on answering a question with
a question?
  #199  
Old October 4th 06, 01:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Montblack[_1_]
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("Judah" wrote)
Are you aware that the Jews have the monopoly on answering a question with
a question?



You don't say?


Montblack
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  #200  
Old October 4th 06, 02:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

John Theune wrote:

Jose wrote:

To clarify my earlier post: Go ahead and blame Garmin ( which may or
may not be right ) but don't use this failure as a reason not to have
advanced avionics in aircraft.



Software that reboots the entire instrumentation panel because of a
single bad input is not "advanced".

Jose


and as had been pointed out by a number of people, there is no solid
evidence that make it clear that the reboots where caused by the out of
range sensor. Even the original story said the fuel displayed displayed
red x before other system failed and eventually rebooted the overall
system. Even it the G1000 is a bad design/system, it's still no reason
to say that we must stay with steam gauges.


I believe that there are many reasons for redundancy and the potential
for a poorly designed system is one of them.

Matt
 




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