How much do you trim?

The pilot flies the control wheel and trims control
pressures to zero. Trim any and every time any change will
be for more than a few seconds, with one exception, don't
trim below Vx.



"Doug" wrote in message
ups.com...
| Trim every time you change pitch. Trim when needed even in
level
| flight. Basically, you trim whenever you need it, and that
is fairly
| often. IDEAL airplane would have trim in all three axis,
but most small
| GA don't.
|

"Peter Duniho" wrote

This has all already been explained to him in great detail in another thread.

You guys are just falling into his net again...

Really! Geez, what does he care about trim, anyway? Is he afraid his monitor
is going to slide off his desk and crash?

Let the sim groups handle his questions, guys! He doesn't want to, and never is
going to fly a real airplane!

Once again, don't answer him, until he has taken a lesson in a real airplane,
and has some questions about that experience!
--
Jim in NC

Get your mom to take you out to the airport one day and sign the release
for you. You will enjoy it and it will be good for show and tell at school.

Robert M. Gary wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:

writes:


A one-hour introductory flight (in a real airplane) would answer
so many of your questions. Why not do it?

If you don't want to answer my question, why waste my time and yours?


I don't think its a waste of time. Most FBOs offer a $49 intro ride.
Its usually around 20 minutes and if you get a 1/2 way good instructor
you will be on the controls most of the time. I think most of the
questions you have will be very obvious when you get in the plane.
Imagine learning to run a lawn mower via a simulator. You'd have a lot
of questions that would just seem obvious when you get the real thing.
If you're in Sacramento, I can take you up on a 20 minute intro ride
for the $49 intro price. We'd fly out over the "naked place" (nudist
place) and do some basic turning and climbing to get a feel for the
plane. $49 is probably about what you paid for the software.

-Robert

Morgans wrote:
Let the sim groups handle his questions, guys! He doesn't want to, and never
is going to fly a real airplane!


I believe his reputation has been noted in the sim groups. The general
consensus is that he earned it. Oddly, he seems to seldom post there. He
prefers to pollute our air.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

Mxsmanic wrote:

If you don't want to answer my question, why waste my time and yours?


You have the balls to ask about wasting time?



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

Tom Young wrote:
Second that. The C150 I fly requires a lot less trim than the C172, to the
point that I forget to use it sometimes. The 172 really doesn't let me
forget.


I ferried a C-172 with a coworker up to an engine shop a few years ago as one of
a flight of two. When we got there, I got into the back of the other C-172.
After we took off, I carefully noted when the pilot trimmed the aircraft, then
leaned forward to engage the guys in the front in conversation. The pilot would
fly along for a minute or two, then retrim. I'd lean back and wait a few
minutes until he retrimmed yet again. Then I leaned forward to talk to the guys
up front again.... making cracks about his apparent inability to hold altitude.

Heh heh... I must have done it four or five times before the pilot caught on.
G Lucky for me, there was no ejection seat in the C-172.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Tom Young wrote:
Second that. The C150 I fly requires a lot less trim than the C172, to the
point that I forget to use it sometimes. The 172 really doesn't let me
forget.


I ferried a C-172 with a coworker up to an engine shop a few years ago as one of
a flight of two. When we got there, I got into the back of the other C-172.
After we took off, I carefully noted when the pilot trimmed the aircraft, then
leaned forward to engage the guys in the front in conversation. The pilot would
fly along for a minute or two, then retrim. I'd lean back and wait a few
minutes until he retrimmed yet again. Then I leaned forward to talk to the guys
up front again.... making cracks about his apparent inability to hold altitude.

Heh heh... I must have done it four or five times before the pilot caught on.
G Lucky for me, there was no ejection seat in the C-172.

I'd have pushed you out the door. I had a 260 lb friend who would wait
patiently until I got the plane trimmed and then slam his seat all the
way back. He did it so fast that I didn't see it coming.

This was the same guy who completely shut an engine down on me once.
I'm sure it was payback for something, I just can't remember what.

Mxsmanic wrote:
What I see in the literature seems to vary between warnings against
spending too much trim or flying with trim tabs, and not ever trimming
the aircraft at all. So how much and when should I trim?

You should be able to take your hands off the controls without the
airplane changing attitude. You set your pitch and then trim to hold it
there. You should never have to use more than two fingers to control
the plane.

There are some pilots who like a little pressure on the controls, but
these are the guys who have arms like Popeye.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message

A) Buy a book.

or

B) Pay a flight instructor for an hour, and ask him.

Mxsmanic wrote:
What I see in the literature seems to vary between warnings against
spending too much trim or flying with trim tabs, and not ever trimming
the aircraft at all. So how much and when should I trim?

You don't ever need to trim, because you are not flying a real airplane.