Why are multiple engines different?

Marty Shapiro wrote:
Sylvain wrote in news:1tednT8sy-
:

Emily wrote:

What, you mean that's NOT how it works in real life? Surely MSFS didn't
get something wrong....
you mean that I can go ahead and fly inverted under
the Golden Gate for real? wheeeeee! looking forward
to the upcoming weekend! :-)

--Sylvain


You can do it for real. Just don't count on the FAA letting you keep
your certificate!

BTW, it is perfectly legal to fly under the Golden Gate. Just use a
helicopter. The SFO sightseeing helicopter flights go under and then over
the Golden Gate.

Call me chicken, but that's a little low for me. What about MSA's? I
know, I know, it's a helo, but still.....

A wonderful movie.


"Montblack" wrote in
message ...
| ("Jim Macklin" wrote)
| It always take 3 things to get anything done. Desire,
money and time.
| It is easy to get any 2 of the 3.
|
|
| The Cowboys (1972) ...John Wayne
|
| When our group of cow(boys) happen upon a wagon full of
giggling young
| (future madams) who are heading to 'the next town over' to
set up shop,
| the two adults at the scene decide ...these cow(boys)
don't have the
| money, anyway. And besides, Mr's Collingwood laments, "The
first time
| should be in the back of a buggy with a girl that they
think they're in
| love with."
|
| She then casts her eye our trail boss, Mr Nightlinger, to
which he
| politely declines, stating, "Well, I have the inclination,
the maturity,
| and the where-with-all; but unfortunately, I don't have
the time."
|
| Roscoe Lee Browne
| Colleen Dewhurst
|
|
| Montblack
| I love that scene!
|

E90 King Air, F90 King Air 200 King Air. The 300/350 is a
transport over 12,500 pounds and has to do it.


"Emily" wrote in message
. ..
| karl gruber wrote:
| Some can, easily.
|
| Name one light twin that can take off on one engine.
|
| Note: a 737 is not considered a light twin.

Back in the early 1950s, AeroCommander flew a 500, piston
powered light twin from OKC to Washington, DC with the right
prop in the baggage area. Ike had one on the list of
approved executive travel planes. Ike was a pilot.



"cjcampbell" wrote in
message
ups.com...
|
| karl gruber wrote:
| Some can, easily.
|
| Karl
|
|
| Hasn't Bob Hooover demonstrated that in the Shrike?
|
| "Sylvain" wrote in message
| t...
| by the way, that's one of the things that MS FS gets
| wrong with the light twins: with a long enough runway
you
| can takeoff with only one engine...
|
| --Sylvain
|

MSA over open water is zero feet in a copter, just stay 500
feet away from ships and swimmers.



"Emily" wrote in message
. ..
| Marty Shapiro wrote:
| Sylvain wrote in news:1tednT8sy-
| :
|
| Emily wrote:
|
| What, you mean that's NOT how it works in real life?
Surely MSFS didn't
| get something wrong....
| you mean that I can go ahead and fly inverted under
| the Golden Gate for real? wheeeeee! looking forward
| to the upcoming weekend! :-)
|
| --Sylvain
|
|
| You can do it for real. Just don't count on the FAA
letting you keep
| your certificate!
|
| BTW, it is perfectly legal to fly under the Golden
Gate. Just use a
| helicopter. The SFO sightseeing helicopter flights go
under and then over
| the Golden Gate.
|
| Call me chicken, but that's a little low for me. What
about MSA's? I
| know, I know, it's a helo, but still.....

spelling correction
"Jim Macklin" wrote
in message news:MMYWg.2126$XX2.1083@dukeread04...
| All internal combustion engines work the same. A turbine
| just does it as a series of continuous events in different
| sections of the engine and a piston engine does one at a
| time so power is produced only 1/4 of the time in a 4
cycle
| and 1/2 the time in a two cycle.
| I'm going to print some T-shirts...
|
| "SUCK
| SQUEEZE
| BANG and
| BLOW
|
| Get your mind out of the gutter, it is an engine"
|
|
| The P&W PT6 is perhaps the most popular turboprop. It
uses
| air coupling between the power and reduction gear section.
| Makes it better in many ways, but there is a loss of
| efficiency.
|
|
| "Emily" wrote in message
| ...
|| cjcampbell wrote:
|| Emily wrote:
|| cjcampbell wrote:
|| Mxsmanic wrote:
|| cjcampbell writes:
||
|| A turborprop
|| increases safety, but now you are talking real
| money, both in
|| acquisition cost and in fuel and maintenance.
|| Why are turboprops so much more expensive? I
thought
| gas turbines
|| were supposed to be simpler and more efficient.
|| They are simple, but much less efficient than piston
| engines.
|| Plus, parts are a lot more expensive and when things
go
| very bad, the
|| maintenance costs are a lot more than a piston. That
| alone scares a lot
|| of operators off.
||
|| Ok, actually, I don't know much about turboprops, but
| that's the case
|| for turbofans.
||
|| From a maintenance standpoint, just think of a
turboprop
| as being a
|| turbofan with a lot less blades.
||
|| LOL...yeah, the whole gas generator and power tubine
thing
| seems a
|| little to complex. I'm sure at some point I understand
| it, but you
|| forget what you don't use.
|
|

Sylvain writes:

by the way, that's one of the things that MS FS gets
wrong with the light twins: with a long enough runway you
can takeoff with only one engine...

Why can't you do this in real life?

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Sylvain writes:

ok, that's cheating too: Bob Hoover can do things in
a twin - or anything that flies for that matter -- that
are physically impossible.

Nobody can do things that are physically impossible.

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Sylvain writes:

you mean that I can go ahead and fly inverted under
the Golden Gate for real?

Some pilots with some planes certainly can.

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"Jim Macklin" writes:

I've had several engine failures ...

Tell me again how safe general aviation is supposed to be.

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