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Old October 14th 06, 04:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Marc Adler
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On Oct 13, 10:01 pm, Emily wrote:

I guess my point was that they didn't even kill anyone who wasn't in the
plane and everyone's still screaming about how dangerous GA is.


So it's not dangerous as long as you don't kill anyone?

This is
going to come out wrong,


No, it came out exactly as you intended it.

but as long as we just kill ourselves, why does
the general population even care?


Aside from the economic reasons which are too obvious to mention,
premature death is generally considered a bad thing, and societies
generally try to do what they can to prevent it. (Cf. street lights,
paved roads, drinking ages, the FAA, DOT, DOE, DOA, US GOVT, etc.)

Hell, drunk drivers probably kill
more bystanders in one week than GA does in a decade.


But it would be okay if the drunk drivers were just killing themselves,
right?

I sure hope you don't have kids.

Marc

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Old October 14th 06, 04:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Marco Leon
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Emily wrote:
I guess my point was that they didn't even kill anyone who wasn't in the
plane and everyone's still screaming about how dangerous GA is. This is
going to come out wrong, but as long as we just kill ourselves, why does
the general population even care? Hell, drunk drivers probably kill
more bystanders in one week than GA does in a decade.


I gotcha. People will always regard GA as dangerous. Now way we can
eliminate that.

Actually, I can understand that people may be concerned about people's
safety on the ground since the condo occupant was real close to getting
killed and only luck kept anyone from getting hurt by the falling
wreckage.

To me, the calls for increased security are much more unfair.

Marco

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Old October 14th 06, 04:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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Marc Adler wrote:

I sure hope you don't have kids.


Is that really necessary?

--
Peter
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Old October 14th 06, 10:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Hell, drunk drivers probably kill
more bystanders in one week than GA does in a decade.



But it would be okay if the drunk drivers were just killing themselves,

right?

I sure hope you don't have kids.


Marc
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Geez, Thats a no brainer,, If one is going to drive while drunk it is
FAR better for them to
take themselves out then kill an innocent driver that shares the road
with them. Now it's my turn,

I hope like hell you don't have kids.......

Ben

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Old October 14th 06, 01:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily
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Hell, drunk drivers probably kill
more bystanders in one week than GA does in a decade.



But it would be okay if the drunk drivers were just killing themselves,

right?

I sure hope you don't have kids.

Oh, a personal attack!!!! Wow!
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Old October 14th 06, 02:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Kingfish" wrote in message
oups.com...
Just got the email about the East River (NYC) TFR. We all knew it was
coming, right? As tragic as the loss of two lives was, unfortunately
every time something like this happens we all look like idiots.


Hmmm...if say, a "Afro-American" (or whatever PC term is used nowadays)
commits a heinous crime, does that make all AA's look like dangerous
criminals?

Is Americans capacity for thought that far gone? If so, we're in really deep
****.



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Old October 14th 06, 02:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow
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"Kingfish" wrote in message
ups.com...

Not sure that it could. Doing something dumb in a car doesn't have the
same potential consequences (normally) as doing something dumb in an
airplane.


Until you take out a mini-van with six kids in it that crosses your path...


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Old October 14th 06, 02:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily
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Matt Barrow wrote:
"Kingfish" wrote in message
oups.com...
Just got the email about the East River (NYC) TFR. We all knew it was
coming, right? As tragic as the loss of two lives was, unfortunately
every time something like this happens we all look like idiots.


Hmmm...if say, a "Afro-American" (or whatever PC term is used nowadays)
commits a heinous crime, does that make all AA's look like dangerous
criminals?


Isn't that how stereotypes generally come about? Attributing
characteristics of a small amount of people to the entire group?
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Old October 14th 06, 03:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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seeing power lines is a required skill to be learned. A correct type
of light is required and glare is critically an issue.

A speed of less than 80 knots allows easy sight and so if the small
power line is visible
it is like landing an aircraft.

So the rather hard part is training people for low level flight. And
so the nice clean window is also required.

The worst to see are small noncommercial lines, private power lines
crossing the river or highway. A poor tree line visibility is assured
because there is no cutt woods to see!

No pole either, the line just appears out of the woods alongside the
road.

All in all it is better to clear the highway at 100 feet then retrace
the route at 20 feet.





HECTOP wrote:
Missed me, eh? Just got permission from my friends to publish this video of
them (stupid idiots!) buzing a highway just outside of Moscow, Russia in a
PZL Wilga-35 along with their wives(!) on the backseat

http://hectop.livejournal.com/281702.html

Yours truly

HECTOP
PP-ASEL-IA
http://www.maxho.com
maxho_at_maxho.com


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Old October 14th 06, 04:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Emily wrote:
I'm wondering if there is any data of aircraft crashes that killed
people on the ground compared to accidents that killed passenger and
crew only.


it's in the Nall report under Ground Injuries: Off-Airport. The
numbers are # of accidents with injuries/fatalities and total # of
fatalities.

2005: 4 total/0 fatal (0 fatalities)
2004: 8 total/1 fatal (1 fatality)
2003: 9 total/3 fatal (4 fatalities)
2002: 10 total/3 fatal (3 fatalities)
2001: 3 total/0 fatal (0 fatalities)

According to nsc.org, in 2003, motor vehicle accidents resulted in the
deaths of 5991 pedestrians (plus 762 bicyclists)... but of course the
planes are what everyone should be afraid of.

todd.

 




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