How often do you have to go around?

Might want to try slowing down when you're 2nd in line. Leave more space
between you. Make the next guy go around.

mike

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Well, it would be nice if there were a dial to change this. You can
reduce the amount of activity with other aircraft in MSFS, but you
can't control exactly how that activity is conducted.

mike regish writes:

Might want to try slowing down when you're 2nd in line. Leave more space
between you. Make the next guy go around.

I tried it, but he was in a Cessna (152, or whatever comes with MSFS),
and I was in a Baron, and I was uneasy about trying to slow too much
when so close to the ground and so close to landing myself. I ended
up passing beneath him as he slowed. Although it's possible to ignore
collisions in MSFS, I went around and spent another five or ten
minutes flying a pattern of sorts and coming in again (I need practice
flying patterns, anyway, I guess).

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"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
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I've had two-three cases of planes pulling onto the runway when I'm on
short
final.

Ron Wanttaja


Don't you just hate that when that happens!!!

Mxsmanic wrote:
How often does this happen in real life? I should think and hope that
real controllers can space aircraft better so that it's rarely
necessary to abort a landing.

In a few hundred hours flying out of Hanscom (primary GA field for
Boston) I've had to go around maybe a half-dozen times, mostly for
runway-lingering by the plane in front. Once the controller sequenced
me a little too tightly. It is a very busy field on the weekends with a
lot of training to keep things messy- 5th in line to take off or land
is not unusual.

In about a half-million airline miles, mostly continental US, I've had
one go-around, on the Delta Shuttle into Boston, because the plane
ahead had not cleared the runway in time. It was a CAVU day and I'd
guess we were well inside the middle marker when they threw in the
towel.

Mxsmanic wrote:
d&tm writes:

And of course for obvious reasons powered aircraft have to give
way to gliders.

I guess one can't really ask a glider to go around.

There's no rule that says you have to give way to gliders.
If you are lower and on final you have the right of way.
Of course, common sense says to give gliders and others
restricted in ability to manouver the right of way.'


In addition, while ATC may have rules to that don't allow
them to permit it, there is no regulation from the pilot
side that says you can't have two aircraft on the runway
at the same time. You do have to be very careful however.

Mxsmanic wrote:
mike regish writes:

Might want to try slowing down when you're 2nd in line. Leave more space
between you. Make the next guy go around.

I tried it, but he was in a Cessna (152, or whatever comes with MSFS),
and I was in a Baron, and I was uneasy about trying to slow too much
when so close to the ground and so close to landing myself.

You should plan better so you aren't running down the (I believe it
is a 182). I don't know what kind of approaches you are making
in the game, but you should hang further back in faster aircraft.
If you passed underneath me in real life, I'd have the FAA on
short final I'd have the FAA on your ass.

Ron Natalie wrote in
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You should plan better so you aren't running down the (I believe it
is a 182). I don't know what kind of approaches you are making
in the game, but you should hang further back in faster aircraft.
If you passed underneath me in real life, I'd have the FAA on
short final I'd have the FAA on your ass.

Dang Ron,

Didn't you know that the lower plane has the right of way in REAL life and
you should give way to a plane passing under you on final

*tongue in cheek*.

Allen

Right.. for example at OSH where they are landing 3 planes at a time on
the same runway.


Ron Natalie wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
d&tm writes:

And of course for obvious reasons powered aircraft have to give
way to gliders.

I guess one can't really ask a glider to go around.

There's no rule that says you have to give way to gliders.
If you are lower and on final you have the right of way.
Of course, common sense says to give gliders and others
restricted in ability to manouver the right of way.'


In addition, while ATC may have rules to that don't allow
them to permit it, there is no regulation from the pilot
side that says you can't have two aircraft on the runway
at the same time. You do have to be very careful however.

I did once about 4 years ago. We were coming home at night. Because my
airport is in a bowl and because there are hills in the area you lose
sight of the airport while turning base. I misjudged the turn and
turned too soon. Once I got around the hill, ready to turn final I
realized that I was too close and went around. My wife was curious
because she'd never seen a go-around before.
However, with my students we do go-arounds all the time. I'll often
wait until just before the wheels hit before calling go-around. Also,
during engine out practice we get down pretty low over the fields
(maybe 40 feet up) and I'll call go around.

-Robert, CFII


Mxsmanic wrote:
In simulation, the simulated ATC seems to be very inefficient at
spacing aircraft, because practically every fifth aircraft on landing
is told to go around. In fact, if you are told to follow someone in
for a landing, you can take for granted that he won't clear the runway
in time and you'll be told to go around. It's tiresome and
frustrating after spending a lot of effort to line things up nicely.

How often does this happen in real life? I should think and hope that
real controllers can space aircraft better so that it's rarely
necessary to abort a landing.

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never happens, ever. You just tell ATC, "I can stop short of my
traffic" I've never been told to "go around, traffic following 1 mile,
citation" that never happens ever.. didn't happen last week during an IPC.

Mxsmanic wrote:
In simulation, the simulated ATC seems to be very inefficient at
spacing aircraft, because practically every fifth aircraft on landing
is told to go around. In fact, if you are told to follow someone in
for a landing, you can take for granted that he won't clear the runway
in time and you'll be told to go around. It's tiresome and
frustrating after spending a lot of effort to line things up nicely.

How often does this happen in real life? I should think and hope that
real controllers can space aircraft better so that it's rarely
necessary to abort a landing.