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Old November 22nd 06, 09:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article , Greg Farris
wrote:

Have you flown any airline out of LAX? I'd rather have a connection out
of LGB than any flight out of LAX. Orlando isn't any joy either.

I prefer LBG - one is generally well treated there!


LBG? Typo or somewhere else?

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Old November 22nd 06, 04:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck writes:

It's actually rather unusual that foreign tourists are being allowed in
the country at all. Throughout US history, tourism has been shut down
during war time.


The United States is not at war.

In a country where most of our states are larger than France -- and
there are 50 of them ...


Only two States are larger than France: Texas and Alaska. Texas is
about 3% larger than France. Alaska is about 21% as large as all of
the continental United States combined.

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Old November 22nd 06, 10:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin Hotze
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On 21 Nov 2006 04:36:43 -0800, Jay Honeck wrote:

Travelers rate America's entry process as the "world's worst" by greater
than a 2:1 margin over the next-worst destination area.


Well, duh. After a country has been successfully attacked by foreign
nationals using airliners as weapons, did you expect to be welcomed
with open arms at the airport, without paperwork or security?


this was also the case pre 9/11.

It's actually rather unusual that foreign tourists are being allowed in
the country at all. Throughout US history, tourism has been shut down
during war time. (Necessary aviation content: So has general
aviation, by the way.)


which war? [1]
last time you (the US) declared war was during WWII (if memory serves me
right).

But all that's beside the point. In a country where most of our states
are larger than France -- and there are 50 of them -- there is more to
see and do here than any one person can accomplish in a lifetime.


well ... it's the cultural diversity of other nationalities.

But I'm gonna try!


well ......

[1] yeah. I know. War on drugs, on terrorism, and on education. So far your
war on (!) education was the most successful. *g*

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Old November 23rd 06, 01:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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But all that's beside the point. In a country where most of our states
are larger than France -- and there are 50 of them -- there is more to
see and do here than any one person can accomplish in a lifetime.


well ... it's the cultural diversity of other nationalities.


I thought you had been to America, Martin? You must not have made it
out of Disneyland, and only seen rich white folks, eh?

America is made up of nothing BUT diverse nationalities, everywhere.
In little Iowa City (which is extremely diverse) I have a good chance
of meeting nearly any nationality on any given day, from the Congo to
Norway.
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Old November 23rd 06, 05:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 23:14:10 +0100, Martin Hotze
wrote in :


[1] yeah. I know. War on drugs, on terrorism, and on education. So far your
war on (!) education was the most successful. *g*


Well said, but you failed to include the wars on statesmanship,
judicial due process and constitutional freedoms, and honesty, and
objective, rational thought, and stem cell research, and the
environment, and ...
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Old November 24th 06, 03:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Well said, but you failed to include the wars on statesmanship,
judicial due process and constitutional freedoms, and honesty, and
objective, rational thought, and stem cell research, and the
environment, and ...


Those aren't wars, they are covert operations.

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Old November 25th 06, 01:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck wrote:

In little Iowa City (which is extremely diverse) I have a good chance
of meeting nearly any nationality on any given day,


do you mean someone from actually a foreign country, as in, raised
and born there, or one of these ethnically confused hyphenated americans
who list the various percentage of this or that 'nationality' they think
they carry somehow in their DNA, but never left USA nor have any contact
nor any knowledge about the 'old country'? Seriously the latter is indeed
quite common everywhere, meeting the former is trickier unless you live
in the place that attracts immigration.

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Old November 25th 06, 02:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
john smith
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In article ,
Sylvain wrote:

Seriously the latter is indeed
quite common everywhere, meeting the former is trickier unless you live
in the place that attracts immigration.


Or the US government decides your city is a good place to resettle them.
Our government provides funds to take care of them for one or two years,
then tells them they are on their own. In the first two years, the ones
resettled in another city2 hear how well the others in city1 is doing
and pack up and leave city2 for city1. City2 continues to receive all
their money for x immigrants. City1, now with their original population
plus those newly arrived from city2 continue to receive federal funds
only for those initially shipped to city1. It is just so interesting to
watch the show.
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Old November 25th 06, 03:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Don Tuite
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 17:51:48 -0800, Sylvain wrote:

Jay Honeck wrote:

In little Iowa City (which is extremely diverse) I have a good chance
of meeting nearly any nationality on any given day,


do you mean someone from actually a foreign country, as in, raised
and born there, or one of these ethnically confused hyphenated americans
who list the various percentage of this or that 'nationality' they think
they carry somehow in their DNA, but never left USA nor have any contact
nor any knowledge about the 'old country'? Seriously the latter is indeed
quite common everywhere, meeting the former is trickier unless you live
in the place that attracts immigration.

--Sylvain


The University of Iowa is justifiably prestigious in science and the
arts, particularly letters. If you look at the stats for the fall
semester at the University:
http://www.registrar.uiowa.edu/profi...63_profile.pdf
there are Approximately 30,000 students (undergrad and grad), and 2004
come from outside the USA -- a 15:1 ratio, or 6.7%.

Faculty numbers about 1,700. I can't find any statistics, but based on
my own experience, I'd bet at least 10% of them (concentrated in the
sciences), call it 170, were born outside the USA.

State-wide, Iowa citizens born outside the USA constitute 3.1% of the
population, non-citizens constitute 2.1%, for a total foreign-born
percnentage of 5.2%.

The population of Iowa City in 2005 was approximately 63,000. Probably
half that is University students and faculty, and we've already
counted those university people. If the non-U population is 30,000,
about 1,500 would be foreign-born, applying the statewide percentages.

Boiling that down, during the school year, there are (round numbers):
2000 + 170 + 1500 = 3670 foreign-born people in a city of 63,000, or
about 6% of the population. If Jay meets 17 citizens a day in
cosmopolitan Iowa City, chances are good he'll meet somebody from WAY
out of town.

(That's in a city. In more rural areas, there's probably more
clustering of foreign born citizens and non-citizens, so even with
that statewide 5.2% figure, he could probably go years without seeing
anybody but corn-fed hyphenated Americans.

Don

 




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