Uncrewed aerial vehicles: no pilot, no problem?

"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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Most military bases have military airspace around them for training. The
test centers all have large military airspace as does the places that have
large military exercises, e.g. Red Flag. I assume most UAV flying in the
US is done in these airspaces.


We're looking for the opposite.

Danny Deger writes:

I assume most UAV flying in the US is done in these airspaces.

There's a worrisome little note that appears to apply to non-military
airspace on the sectional chart for Palmdale:

"CAUTION: Unmanned Aircraft System operations conducted in this area
below 14,000' MSL. See and avoid responsibilities being provided
through ground observers and chase aircraft. Contact Joshua Control on
124.55, 363.0 for activity information and advisory service."

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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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Most military bases have military airspace around them for training. The
test centers all have large military airspace as does the places that
have large military exercises, e.g. Red Flag. I assume most UAV flying
in the US is done in these airspaces.


We're looking for the opposite.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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Most military bases have military airspace around them for training. The
test centers all have large military airspace as does the places that
have large military exercises, e.g. Red Flag. I assume most UAV flying
in the US is done in these airspaces.


We're looking for the opposite.


As far as I know, that would be "everything else". I think 99% of airspace
in the USA is civilian.

Danny Deger

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:39:32 -0600, "Danny Deger"
wrote in
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I think 99% of airspace in the USA is civilian.

The FAA is responsible for the NAS; it just agrees to let the military
use some of it at certain times, IIRC.

Larry Dighera wrote:
For instance, when an air-traffic
controller needs to talk to a UAV's remote pilot, the radio link
should work in the same way as it does for an aircraft with an onboard
pilot - the controller must be able to talk to the remote pilot as if
they were sitting in the UAV, rather than having to be manually
patched through by a radio operator.

I think this is going to be pretty hard for them to do
because ATC has never told anyone to do anything absurd or dangerous...

The thing needs to be like a pilot, listening to ATC, but making it's
own decisions and asking questions... also, anything with voice
recognition will be interesting (there are controlers that are just
harder to understand than others).

"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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As far as I know, that would be "everything else". I think 99% of
airspace in the USA is civilian.


The military is barred from 99% of US airspace?

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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The FAA is responsible for the NAS; it just agrees to let the military
use some of it at certain times, IIRC.


I'm pretty sure the military can use damn near any airspace at any time.

On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:52:59 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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The FAA is responsible for the NAS; it just agrees to let the military
use some of it at certain times, IIRC.


I'm pretty sure the military can use damn near any airspace at any time.


I omitted the word 'exclusively' inadvertently.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:39:32 -0600, "Danny Deger"
wrote in
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I think 99% of airspace in the USA is civilian.

The FAA is responsible for the NAS; it just agrees to let the military
use some of it at certain times, IIRC.


Well put. This is also my understanding.

Danny Deger