Beechcraft sold

In article Hr0jh.4957$_X.4070@bigfe9,
"Peter Dohm" wrote:

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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"Dan Luke" wrote:

"Aluckyguess" wrote :

The Cirrus needs the autopilot to fly straight and level.

Baloney.

well, I would need one since I'm left-handed.

I know, I know, I'm in the minority here wrt side-sticks. But I
really don't like side-sticks.

Two things turned me off the Lancair ES: one was it was very
heavy in roll, and the other was the side-stick.

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You may be in the minority WRT side sticks, or you may not.

I used to think they were the coolest idea ever, at least if mounted on the
right, until I got tennis elbow a couple of times. I still haven't ever
tried a side stick; but I no longer have any desire for one because I now
see the value in being able to switch hands. BTW, I am also left handed
which would add another layer to the problem!

Peter

I suspect most of the modern side-stick designs are intended to be flown on
A/P most of the time. Click it on at rotation, click it off in the flare.

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:24:23 -0500, Doug Vetter
wrote:

If I had the
coin, I'd buy a G36 or Baron over the new plastic airplanes, and a King
Air over a VLJ any day -- even if it cost me more to buy and to operate
on a long-term basis. They're that good.

Lots of people WITH the money do as you would like. G

It'll be interesting how the certified VLJ's truly compare to King
Airs, when load, runway length, and true usability are compared.

Yes, excellent points.

Peter

I suspect most of the modern side-stick designs are intended to be flown on
A/P most of the time. Click it on at rotation, click it off in the flare.

That ain't flying.
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In article Hr0jh.4957$_X.4070@bigfe9, "Peter Dohm"
wrote:

I know, I know, I'm in the minority here wrt side-sticks. But I
really don't like side-sticks.

Two things turned me off the Lancair ES: one was it was very
heavy in roll, and the other was the side-stick.

I used to think they were the coolest idea ever, at least if mounted on the
right, until I got tennis elbow a couple of times. I still haven't ever
tried a side stick; but I no longer have any desire for one because I now
see the value in being able to switch hands. BTW, I am also left handed
which would add another layer to the problem!

I was told that the lancair owner is left-handed, which makes the design
more "interesting"

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

...intended to be flown on A/P most of the time....

That ain't flying.

Amen to that!

Jose
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"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
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I would say that is an accurate statement.
I remember my first Bonanza checkout and preflight.
I was amazed at the Beech construction compared to the Cessnas and
Pipers I had been flying.
The Beech is solid in comparison.

Robert Dorsey wrote:

Ever hear the saying "quality, not quantity"?
I can think of a few low production, hand built, high dollar cars that
could be built quickly and for a lot less $ with savings passed to the
buyer causing the market to respond, but it seems they prefer not to
do that. Do you think maybe Ratheon wasn't interested in the
mass-production mindset? Do you think they may feel there are
individuals out there that would want "Hawker like" quality in a
single or twin recip?

Robert Dorsey writes:

Do you think maybe Ratheon wasn't interested in the
mass-production mindset? Do you think they may feel there are
individuals out there that would want "Hawker like" quality in a
single or twin recip?

Maybe Raytheon _did_ want mass production, and that's why they
unloaded Beechcraft.

I prefer quality over quantity, although the upper limit on the former
is always imposed by my budget, unfortunately. I try to get the best
I can afford.

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"Robert Dorsey" wrote in message
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Ever hear the saying "quality, not quantity"?
I can think of a few low production, hand built, high dollar cars that
could be built quickly and for a lot less $ with savings passed to the
buyer causing the market to respond, but it seems they prefer not to
do that. Do you think maybe Ratheon wasn't interested in the
mass-production mindset? Do you think they may feel there are
individuals out there that would want "Hawker like" quality in a
single or twin recip?

I would like to agree with you on this but at this point in time its all
about money in any big corporation.

On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:49:18 GMT, "Tom Conner"
wrote:

Many have commented that their planes are great, but the price is to high.
The implication is that they could lower their price, sell more planes,
and
still make a profit.

Okay, why is their price so high compared to other manufacturers? The
technology is stable, the price of raw materials has to be equal to the
cost
for other manufacturers, labor costs have to be near that of other
manufacturers, and insurance costs have to be near that of other
manufacturers. So, what makes their price so high?

Robert M. Gary writes:

Sorry, my newsgroup ISP doesn't allow posts that long.

Long lists of owners make me nervous.

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john smith writes:

The WSJ has had several stories during the last couple months relating
how hedge funds have purchased viable companies, borrowed heavily,
siphoned off the loans and left the company in shambles.

LIke I said, making money is all that counts. These companies care
nothing about aviation.

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