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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Yep every last one of them. Don't blame us blame the terrorists.

The terrorists didn't eliminate these liberties. Americans did.

Paperowrk sucks. We all hate it but the government pretty much runs on it.
WHat do you think we should do to secure our borders and try and reduce the
posibility of another 9/11?

There isn't going to be another 9/11, just as there was never another
Pearl Harbor. Therefore reducing the possibility of one is moot, and
a waste of resources.

A bigger nail in the coffin would be US tranined foriegn pilot
slamming into another building.

Terrorists hope and expect that their targets will self-destruct
through fear and hysteria, and they are usually right.

And the US had what he needed because it is well, the US. And to keep things
like the best simulators around and available for not only US citizens but
foreign nationals as well we have to protect the country.

There was a time when Americans had courage. Now all they have is
ego.

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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

And before I'm asked I will state for the record that I'd have no problem
with every foreign national requesting entry into the US to have to complete
the same paperwork.

Then you won't mind completing the same paperwork yourself.

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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

That there are home grown assholes doesn't mean we can't do what we can to
keep foreign assholes out.

If you allow the home-grown ones to act unhindered, there's no point
in keeping the foreign ones out.

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B A R R Y writes:

Nobody remembered he wasn't a citizen when we got a group together to
do a tour. We thought of the kid as one of us, totally forgetting
he's not an American citizen.

Try not to make that mistake again. Some people are more equal than
others.

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TSA rules are what was easy, they did something, that made
the media and public "happy" because they did something.


"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
message ...
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| "Martin Hotze" wrote in message
| ...
| B A R R Y schrieb:
|
| I know a 17 year old Indian kid who just passed his
PP-ASEL at a local
| FBO flight school. He's not a US citizen, and no laws
were broken.
|
|
| A friend here just made his type rating (Citation 1,
IIRC) in the US. He
| tried hard to find an alternative outside the US but he
had no luck. So
| he had to go through all the hassle with fingerprinting
(cost him an
| extra flight to Paris only for that), a ton of
paperwork, special
| treatment at immigration, ...
|
| It was really made almost impossible for him to spend
those 10 or 20
| AMUs in the US ...
|
| As you said: it actually _is_ possible, but at what
cost?
|
| Well, we did have a bunch of non-US citizens train to fly
in the us and then
| highjack planes and use them to kill 3000+ people. So of
all the rules and
| laws that have come down the pike since 9/11 this one
probably the most
| logical.
|
| And as you said he couldn't find an alternative outside
the US so I guess we
| aren't all bad.
|
|

It would be worse pressure if Mom was driving the car and
you were on you first date the "girl" of your dreams.


"John" wrote in message
oups.com...
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| Jim Macklin wrote:
| Talk about pressure, Mom in the back seat.
|
| Crimeny . . . that is serious pressure . . . that may be
worse than
| Ernest Gann's story of his captain lighting matches under
his nose
| during an otherwise straight-forward instrument approach .
.. .
| apparently to emphasize that you need to be able to do
this stuff . . .
| even under pressure.
|
| Blue skies . . . and maybe less pressure on all of us.
|

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:35:27 -0500, Buck Murdock wrote:

When I can get a flying job in the EU as easily as a European can get a
flying job in the US, I'll have slightly more sympathy for the training
hassles.

Are there any major differences (besides that JAR is just starting in
Europe, so you might have to deal with regulations of every single
country)?

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:06:21 -0500, Morgans wrote:

But people still do come here to train for pleasure flying and for
commercial training from all over the world.

agreed; but you don't know how many didn't come any more.

Why? Because it is still
cheaper and better and more accessible than most anywhere else in the WORLD.

true :-)
I just found out that today I could fly twice as much in the US than I did
back in 2002 for the same money. IOW, I could make the same trip twice
(almost; not counting the trans-atlantic flight).

Suck it up. I'm sick and tired of hearing foreigners bitch about the US.

It's just a statement. And it was more a statement on the influence on GA (
a small influence, but still).

Stay the hell away if you don't like it.

Right now I don't like it, so I do stay away. And 'you' do all the best to
keep it that way. And: this is not only me, but this is collateral damage,
I suppose.

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 21:36:17 GMT, B A R R Y wrote:

The Indian kid had to cough up an extra document or two, (...)

*hahaha*
good one.

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:09:57 -0600, Gig 601XL Builder wrote:


Yep every last one of them. Don't blame us blame the terrorists.

bah, they already won.

A bigger nail in the coffin would be US tranined
foriegn pilot slamming into another building.

I wouldn't care if they are US trained or not. I even wouldn't care if they
are foreigners or not. I would care about someone slamming into a building.

What's the difference if the pilot is a citizen or not? Can you put your
hand into the fire that there are no US terrorists (citizens)?

And the US had what he needed because it is well, the US.


Not. This very company had the equipment only in one of their many
facilities. And this one was located in the US. It wasn't the US who
provided anything.

And to keep things
like the best simulators around and available for not only US citizens but
foreign nationals as well we have to protect the country.

You just put it like he trained in a government facility.
"It's the money, stupid."

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