Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC

BDS writes:

Well, then that conflicts with what another poster said which I believe was
that MSFS allowed you to yaw the nose without any heading change.

Yes, it does.

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Newps writes:

You still haven't listed one time when the rudder does not change flight
path.

A forward slip.

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"Barney Rubble" wrote in
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How do you know that they aren't just agreeing with you in the hope
that you will go away? Seems much more plausible based on your current
performance.

Only way the troll will go away is for us not to answer him.....

Allen

Newps writes:

There is never a case where it doesn't change flight path.

Landing in a crosswind.

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Mark Hansen writes:

It is changing the flight path the aircraft would have taken had you
not applied the rudder.

It is also maintaining the flight path that you originally intended.

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Nomen Nescio writes:

Won't work that way. The wing leveler won't keep the wings level in
that situation.

You are telling me things that are manifestly untrue when I actually
try them, which wastes my time.

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Alexey Goldin writes:

If this statement about MSFS behavior is true, it is impossible to
simulate soaring flight in MSFS. I have no experience with MSFS --- is
this the case? Never mind simulated flying under cumulonimbus or in
virga --- exactly the case where you do not want to do it for real...

MSFS includes a glider. I have no glider experience so I cannot
comment on its realism.

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Sam Spade writes:

In the context of aviation the purpose of simulation is to faithfully
duplicate the aircraft flight deck, panels and systems, motion, and
outside visual references so that pilot qualification in the simulator
translates into pilot qualification in the aircraft.

No. Simulation reproduces specific aspects of the real world with
specific levels of accuracy and realism. No simulation reproduces
everything perfectly. Some simulators reproduce certain things
perfectly. There is no one size that fits all, nor is it necessary
for all simulators to reproduce everything.

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Paul kgyy writes:

If you want a better feel for what actually goes on than you will ever
get via newsgroup, take a couple of United flights and listen to the
ATC channel - it can be much more entertaining than the movie at times.

I didn't know it was possible to do that. I haven't flown in a long
time. I'm surprised nobody has forbidden it as "useful to
terrorists."

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Mxsmanic wrote:

Sam Spade writes:


I don't think you understand the aerodynamics of the real world. MSFS
has great scenery but the aircraft and the atmosphere modeling are
terribly wrong in MSFS.


It sounds like you don't fly much in MSFS.

Tell me _exactly_ what's wrong with the aircraft modeling.


Off the top of my head:

The King Air, on autopilot, will not maintain the set vertical speed if
the IAS drops below 120 knots or so. It will nose-dive and crash. Not
so with a real King Air.

Cross winds on autopilot are not handled correctly on an RNAV approach.

Strong winds aloft dramatically affect IAS in a holding pattern, which
is wrong beyond belief.

That is my short list.