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Old January 19th 07, 01:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Oh yeah? Is something going to happen?


Wait and see.

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Old January 19th 07, 01:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Sam, you're dealing with a man (we think) who lives in Paris (we think)
in his mid 40s (ditto) who used to have money, and now celebrates
having enough, if we accept his blog, being able to buy a hamburger. It
would be moderately interesting to learn why he left San Diago (we
think) for Paris.

There's an obvious intellegence, but a negative attitude.

You are an inconvenient truth, you represent something he might have
been. You have to brush off some of his remarks as if they were lint on
your shoulder.

In places that I managed and owned, employees were mostly 'employees of
convenience' and I think it wouldn't take long for one of my executives
with hiring/discharging authority to decide it was inconvenient to
employ someone with his characteristics unless he was truly exceptional
at his job and added considerable value to our products. It's my guess
there's not much chance of that. I could be wrong, but that would be
the way to bet. His problems in this group and in the sim game one
suggests his personality problems are deeply seated. This kind of forum
is probably the only kind where he can pretend to be superior without
consequences. Too bad, it's a sad case, but this isn't a mental health
newsgroup, it is a - let me check -- yeah, an aviation one. Watching
him is like watching someone driving not very well. You're pretty sure
there's going to be crash sometime soon, and it's difficult not to
watch it happen.

There he goes, tires squealing, taking another corner too fast. . .



n Jan 18, 8:17 pm, wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
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I rent airplanes for $79/hr and one can find a nice IFR equipped 152
for $25k or less.


Not everyone lives in an area where they can rent aircraft for $79 per
hour, and a 152 may not suit everyone's requirements. And even at
these prices, they are out of reach for many Americans.Yes, and riding motorcycles is also out of reach of "many Americans".

Doesn't mean motorcycling is only for the rich. BTW, I had those
rental prices in South FL and Denver, CO. They are current prices and
those two areas have a relatively high cost of living. If you live in
an area that is too expensive for your happiness, you move. Nobody's
forced to live in a certain area in the US.



I started with nothing and now have a job paying in the mid-$50s
that allows me to fly around 90/hrs per year.


So you need $55,000 to fly for one percent of your time. Sounds like
an awfully expensive hobby to me.Huh? I paid off my car in cash, I travel, I go out with my friends, I

have a savings account, etc. I gave my income (which is median where I
live) as an example of the median income person being able to fly with
no debt. I certainly don't come anywhere close to spending all my
money on flying.



Obtaining a job that pays $50k/hr or more is doable by anybody
of average intelligence that is willing to work.


If only that were true.Why isn't it true? Nobody paid anything for me after I was 18.

Nothing. No car, no insurance, no groceries, no books for college. I
did it all from scratch, and I'm just an average guy that worked hard.
I met a lot of people in school that did the same. America has its
problems, but hard work will always be rewarded here. The people that
complain seem to be lazy and expect things handed out to them and are
resentful of those that worked hard.



I'm under 30 yrs old and have a college degree, my private, instrument,
and am working on my commercial - all paid for in cash (no debt).


Enjoy it while you can.Oh yeah? Is something going to happen? I've had more than my fair

share of tough life experiences. I don't let it slow me down.



Quit feeling sorry for yourself and get a job that pays.


I haven't said anything about myself.Your constant whining says plenty.


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Old January 19th 07, 01:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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They get a lot more use out of their car than they could ever get out
of an aircraft.


Irrelevant.
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Old January 19th 07, 02:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Irrelevant.


You think that the amount of money a person spends on something should
be uncorrelated with the use he gets out of it?

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Old January 19th 07, 02:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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You don't necessarily want accurate reporting, if it creates the wrong
impression.


Well, I prefer a report that accurately represents reality, and tells the
whole story. A person can take specific facts and still create an innacurate
representation of the truth.

But you know that very well.
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Old January 19th 07, 02:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Judah writes:

Well, I prefer a report that accurately represents reality, and tells the
whole story.


Even if you end up losing the ability to fly as a result?

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Old January 19th 07, 02:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Tony wrote:
Sam, you're dealing with a man (we think) who lives in Paris (we think)
in his mid 40s (ditto) who used to have money, and now celebrates
having enough, if we accept his blog, being able to buy a hamburger. It
would be moderately interesting to learn why he left San Diago (we
think) for Paris.

There's an obvious intellegence, but a negative attitude.


Yeah, it is odd. Like you said, he seems intelligent but has let his
attitude ruin his life. Maybe he had some criminal or civil problems
chase him into a foreign country, and now he's paying the consequences.

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Old January 19th 07, 02:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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You think that the amount of money a person spends on something should
be uncorrelated with the use he gets out of it?


People spend similar amounts of money on cigarettes. I believe a plane is
more useful than cigarettes.

People spend less money on childbirth. I believe a child is more useful than
a car, a plane, or a cigarette.

But value is personal. And spending priorities even moreso. What you or I
think about how someone else should spend their money is irrelevant.

I'm not suggesting that everyone who makes $50,000 / yr should go out and buy
a plane. I'm merely pointing out the absurdity of your suggestion that most
people don't have the option.
 




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