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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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I'm going through the phases of MX.

I'm sorry to hear that g

I don't think he's anything more than an effective troll. I'll never
understand his motive, unless he just gets his jollies by ****ing people
off.

What really bothers me is his complete disrespect for the other participants
in this newsgroup. This is not a simulator newsgroup, it's a group for
pilots. The fact that he chooses to pollute this group with his drivel is
one problem. The other is that many choose to allow him to vandalize the
place. If everyone would ignore him, he would go away, but many won't. They
respect his right to pollute.

Unfortunately, this has made reading this group much less enjoyable for ME.

Today was a good day. Only 1/3 of todays postings have his stench attached.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
I'm going through the phases of MX. At first I just thought he was stupid.
Then I was pretty sure he was just a troll. But I'm really begining to think
he is indeed crazy as a **** house rat.

And what makes you think that he can't be all three?

I killfiled him and any thread that he starts quite awhile ago... Funny
how quiet the newsgroup has been since then...

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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You don't spend much time in simulators, do you?

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I don't spend much time in the real world.

Well, you can separate reality from fantasy. You didn't come to this
forum saying something like, "last night I flew my 737 IFR from LAX to
SFO. On the way I buzzed the beach. Today I think I'll do acro in my
P-51." These kind of statements belong on a game newsgroup, which is
where MX should post them. Here they are misleading and OT.

Agree 100%. My statements about the Kiwi notwithstanding, MX needs to
clearly state upfront that he is not really flying, lest some newbie
here presume otherwise.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay, we've had this discussion before. MSFS is very pretty and with a set up
like the Kiwi is very immersive. But look at what Anthony wrote and where he
wrote it. It would be like me going into one of the military newsgroups and
saying, "last night I killed 24 Nazi soldiers" because I played Call of
Duty.

ROTFL! That is just an outstanding comparison....nothing more can be
added, after that...!
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck writes:

Agree 100%. My statements about the Kiwi notwithstanding, MX needs to
clearly state upfront that he is not really flying, lest some newbie
here presume otherwise.

Or else what?

If simulation is so different from real flight, it should be instantly
obvious that I'm simulating. If it's not obvious, then that aspect of
simulation is probably not different.

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Gig,

But I'm really begining to think
he is indeed crazy as a **** house rat.


You betcha.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Mxsmanic wrote:
Jay Honeck writes:

Agree 100%. My statements about the Kiwi notwithstanding, MX needs
to clearly state upfront that he is not really flying, lest some
newbie here presume otherwise.

Or else what?


Jay, one of the few people that take up for you in this newsgroup might stop
doing so.


If simulation is so different from real flight, it should be instantly
obvious that I'm simulating. If it's not obvious, then that aspect of
simulation is probably not different.

There was nothing in your comment that could have been used to make the
distinction. As I've stated I think the reason for that is that you really
can't tell the difference. And while that adds a lot of entertainment value
of a game for you it really shows a lack of connection with the real world.

If simulation is so different from real flight, it should be instantly
obvious that I'm simulating. If it's not obvious, then that aspect of
simulation is probably not different.

Uh oh, we've crossed an existential barrier here that is becoming
fuzzier all the time. When will virtual reality become
indistinguishable from "reality"?

Are your experiences in the sim valid, if they precisely reproduce
reality? Yes, in many respects, they are. However, as good as MSFS
is, it simply does NOT precisely reproduce reality, especially in the
standard simmer's set up.

I don't know what kind of computer rig you're running flight sim on,
but from past posts I am presuming a standard PC with a joystick. I
can guarantee you that this is not a valid reproduction of flight, and
therefore invalidates your advice and observations on many aspects of
flight.

That said, you *might* be a good source of knowledge regarding IFR
procedures, depending on how religiously you reproduce the
experience. As many people have pointed out, a sim is an excellent
IFR trainer, as IFR flight is closer to "programming" than real flying
in many phases of flight.

(Oooo, that one is gonna hit a few sore spots! Donning flame-proof
suit... ;-)

It won't, however, allow you to comment on the IFR flight experience
itself, since you can't possibly reproduce the "leans" that you get
when flying in the clouds, nor can you feel the actual emotional
release you get when you break out at minimums.

Basically, your contentions are invalid, and will be invalid until you
are able to afford a more advanced full-motion simulator. And even
THEN many of your observations will be invalid, simply because it's
not real.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
Uh oh, we've crossed an existential barrier here that is becoming
fuzzier all the time. When will virtual reality become
indistinguishable from "reality"?

When you can get the same bodily (and monetary) injuries from your
mistakes in a sim that you can in reality?