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  #101  
Old February 14th 07, 03:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dylan Smith writes:

A bit like Switzerland (4 languages) hasn't, then?


Unfortunately, the peace and calm of Switzerland for much of its history is
atypical for countries with multiple "official" or important languages.
Belgium, Yugoslavia, and Canada are much more representative of the kinds of
problems that arise. Sometimes it's just a constant undercurrent of friction
and resentment, sometimes it's violence. And it always costs a lot of money
and handicaps economic growth.

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Old February 14th 07, 03:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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mad8 writes:

the citizenship test doesn't require being able to speak english. you
can take it in your own language if you pay/provide a translator.


In the United States, perhaps. In many countries, a test of competency in the
national language is _part_ of the citizenship test. If you don't speak the
language, you don't get citizenship, period.

(all this i know from being surrounded by Russians who just recently
came here and don't speak enough english to be useful)


They don't speak enough English to be useful, but they want to be citizens?
Hmm. If they are too lazy or stupid to learn English, how do they plan to
support themselves? Or do they expect the state to do that?

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  #103  
Old February 14th 07, 03:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Bob Fry wrote:
"JH" == Jay Honeck writes:



JH This thread is about foreign language weather websites being
JH paid for with US taxpayer dollars.

No, Jay, this thread is about your bigotry and small-mindedness which
raises up every few weeks. If you cared about government waste you'd
be raising hell about the incredible waste going on in Iraq, courtesy
of neocons like yourself. Or do you still think that democracy is
going to flower in that miserable place?


Fry - you are so far out that you are actually in a tangential universe.


Kinda funny, actually, us posters giving you--a history major--the
most basic lessons in history.


You guys (folks with your mentality) will soon be totally back in power
so it will be a real education to see what fantastic 'leadership' occurs.
  #104  
Old February 14th 07, 03:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Feb 14, 10:46 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
Hamish (for whom American English is definitely foreign :-))


So, let me get this straight:

You're saying that Spanish is *not* a foreign language in the United
States, simply because a large portion of people here are originally
from Spanish-speaking countries?

By that definition, German is not a foreign language in Iowa and
Wisconsin. Neither is Italian. Or Irish.

Or have you come up with some intellectually gymnastic limitation on
your theory, like "it's only not a foreign language if the speakers
have not been here more than 'x' generations..."?

Honestly, you guys are hilarious!
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and russian is still a foreign language in parts of NYC, Philly,
Chicago, etc. (you may get more done in brooklyn speaking russian than
english, but nobody is trying to have everything in russian...)

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Old February 14th 07, 03:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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A bit like Switzerland (4 languages) hasn't, then?

The Swiss have always been the exception to the rule, in that regard.

Just don't ask them about their finances during the Nazi era.
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Old February 14th 07, 04:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Ol Shy & Bashful writes:

Times are changing my friend. I am one of the most adamant in the USA
regarding the use of english as our language but I fear I am ****ing
in the wind. In most of the foreign countries I worked in, I had to
learn at least a modicum of the language to survive. It is indeed
unfortunate that our education system, and by extension, most
Americans, never learn a foreign language well enough to carry on a
simple conversation in anything but english.


It's much more unfortunate that immigrants and natives never bother to learn
English to begin with, and then the state panders to them to maintain them as
parasites on society, instead of useful contributors.

I guess it beats being in arabic......or Finnish? ggg


How many foreign languages are public documents printed in in Saudi Arabia?

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Old February 14th 07, 04:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Feb 14, 10:55 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Dylan Smith writes:
A bit like Switzerland (4 languages) hasn't, then?


Unfortunately, the peace and calm of Switzerland for much of its history is
atypical for countries with multiple "official" or important languages.
Belgium, Yugoslavia, and Canada are much more representative of the kinds of
problems that arise. Sometimes it's just a constant undercurrent of friction
and resentment, sometimes it's violence. And it always costs a lot of money
and handicaps economic growth.

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I believe India has 300some languages...

  #108  
Old February 14th 07, 04:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Well, not really. I think they have always spoken Spanish in Puerto Rico. New
Mexico had a bilingual law in their original constitution. Come on, Jay. This
is KKK stuff you're spouting. And I know you don't believe in that.


Is this some new variation on the "Hitler Rule"?

Once you start accusing someone of belonging to the KKK, the
opportunity for intelligent discussion is over.
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  #109  
Old February 14th 07, 04:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jose" wrote
Um, sorry to burst your bubble, Jose, but Spanish is a foreign
language in the United States.


Um, sorry to burst your bubble, Jay, but Spanish is not a foreign
language in the United States.


Foreign: Of, characteristic of, or from a place or country other than the
one being considered.

Since neither English nor Spanish originated in the US, both could
technically be called foreign. That said, since 82% of the US population
speak English, you could argue that English is "characteristic of" the USA,
and therefore, not foreign. However, since only 12% of the population speak
Spanish you couldn't really say that it is "characteristic of" the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languag..._United_States

BDS


  #110  
Old February 14th 07, 04:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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The US is in no danger of losing english as the primary language. We'll
all look up one day and forget what all the concern was about.


I truly hope you're right, Bill.

In the meantime, I guess we can stop worrying about the National
Weather Service's budget, as they are clearly flush with money.
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

 




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