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Old February 14th 07, 10:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Perhaps America's culture and values have changed?
If that is true, please think real hard and answer the question yourself. If you can true be objective and analytical you will come up with a fairly logical answer.


I have an answer, but you won't like it.

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Old February 14th 07, 10:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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LWG wrote:

The essence of America was that its immigrant population willingly
abandoned many or most aspects of the culture it left.


is it? my understanding is that the only thing you abandon is
your allegiance to foreign powers. Each immigrant brings something
with the idea that the result is greater than the simple sum of
its parts. That's what I sign up for.

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Old February 14th 07, 11:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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LWG writes:

Like me, most Americans have close ties to immigrants, whether is is this
generation, or one recently past. But in my family, I never heard the
outright hatred for American culture and values that I hear from some of
today's immigrants. Laws compelling bilingualism will increase the divide
between the groups, and increase the hostility.


Unfortunately, that is exactly what some people want, and those are the people
behind bilingual initiatives. It is not intended to work in the best interest
of the immigrants at all.

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Old February 14th 07, 11:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:

Just for the record you do realize that MANY illegals pay taxes in the US
don't you.


Which ones? All the ones I've encountered paid nothing to anyone, although
they certain received money. This is especially true for the illegals who are
not Hispanic. I don't think anyone would say they don't work hard. If they
didn't they wouldn't be in such demand.

They don't necessarily work hard, but they work cheaply, and they can't
complain about working conditions. They are not suitable for skilled work,
though.

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Old February 14th 07, 11:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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ktbr writes:

If that is true, please think real hard and answer the question
yourself. If you can true be objective and analytical you will come up
with a fairly logical answer.


A general erosion of personal responsibility, which is typical of all
democracies as they age.

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Old February 14th 07, 11:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Sylvain writes:

is it? my understanding is that the only thing you abandon is
your allegiance to foreign powers. Each immigrant brings something
with the idea that the result is greater than the simple sum of
its parts. That's what I sign up for.


Most immigrants are looking for a better life, so they don't have much to
bring, and there isn't much that they want to bring.

You cannot have the best of the old country _and_ the best of the new.

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Old February 14th 07, 11:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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ktbr writes:

Something obtained too cheaply or with little effort is little valued.


Or perhaps things that can be obtained cheaply or with little effort tend to
attract people who don't understand the concept of value.

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Old February 14th 07, 11:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:

A general erosion of personal responsibility, which is typical of all
democracies as they age.


That is part of the answer.
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Old February 14th 07, 11:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jose wrote:

Perhaps America's culture and values have changed?


If that is true, please think real hard and answer the question
yourself. If you can true be objective and analytical you will come up
with a fairly logical answer.



I have an answer, but you won't like it.


Yes, you have "an" answer. The reason you think I won't like it is
because you know it is probably not objective, thoughtful or un-biased.
I am an engineer by training and trade so I like things that are
accurate, objective, honest and correct.
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Old February 14th 07, 11:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Sylvain writes:


is it? my understanding is that the only thing you abandon is
your allegiance to foreign powers. Each immigrant brings something
with the idea that the result is greater than the simple sum of
its parts. That's what I sign up for.



Most immigrants are looking for a better life, so they don't have much to
bring, and there isn't much that they want to bring.

You cannot have the best of the old country _and_ the best of the new.

 




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