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Perhaps America's culture and values have changed?
If that is true, please think real hard and answer the question yourself. If you can true be objective and analytical you will come up with a fairly logical answer. I have an answer, but you won't like it. Jose -- Humans are pack animals. Above all things, they have a deep need to follow something, be it a leader, a creed, or a mob. Whosoever fully understands this holds the world in his hands. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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LWG wrote:
The essence of America was that its immigrant population willingly abandoned many or most aspects of the culture it left. is it? my understanding is that the only thing you abandon is your allegiance to foreign powers. Each immigrant brings something with the idea that the result is greater than the simple sum of its parts. That's what I sign up for. --Sylvain |
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LWG writes:
Like me, most Americans have close ties to immigrants, whether is is this generation, or one recently past. But in my family, I never heard the outright hatred for American culture and values that I hear from some of today's immigrants. Laws compelling bilingualism will increase the divide between the groups, and increase the hostility. Unfortunately, that is exactly what some people want, and those are the people behind bilingual initiatives. It is not intended to work in the best interest of the immigrants at all. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Gig 601XL Builder writes:
Just for the record you do realize that MANY illegals pay taxes in the US don't you. Which ones? All the ones I've encountered paid nothing to anyone, although they certain received money. This is especially true for the illegals who are not Hispanic. I don't think anyone would say they don't work hard. If they didn't they wouldn't be in such demand. They don't necessarily work hard, but they work cheaply, and they can't complain about working conditions. They are not suitable for skilled work, though. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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ktbr writes:
If that is true, please think real hard and answer the question yourself. If you can true be objective and analytical you will come up with a fairly logical answer. A general erosion of personal responsibility, which is typical of all democracies as they age. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Sylvain writes:
is it? my understanding is that the only thing you abandon is your allegiance to foreign powers. Each immigrant brings something with the idea that the result is greater than the simple sum of its parts. That's what I sign up for. Most immigrants are looking for a better life, so they don't have much to bring, and there isn't much that they want to bring. You cannot have the best of the old country _and_ the best of the new. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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ktbr writes:
Something obtained too cheaply or with little effort is little valued. Or perhaps things that can be obtained cheaply or with little effort tend to attract people who don't understand the concept of value. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
A general erosion of personal responsibility, which is typical of all democracies as they age. That is part of the answer. |
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Jose wrote:
Perhaps America's culture and values have changed? If that is true, please think real hard and answer the question yourself. If you can true be objective and analytical you will come up with a fairly logical answer. I have an answer, but you won't like it. Yes, you have "an" answer. The reason you think I won't like it is because you know it is probably not objective, thoughtful or un-biased. I am an engineer by training and trade so I like things that are accurate, objective, honest and correct. |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Sylvain writes: is it? my understanding is that the only thing you abandon is your allegiance to foreign powers. Each immigrant brings something with the idea that the result is greater than the simple sum of its parts. That's what I sign up for. Most immigrants are looking for a better life, so they don't have much to bring, and there isn't much that they want to bring. You cannot have the best of the old country _and_ the best of the new. |
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