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  #51  
Old February 26th 07, 02:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"Jim Macklin" wrote

It should, after all we could place large set of louvers or
blinds in an orbit to shade the Earth, or learn to control
the Sun. Besides, when has funding depended on rational
thought, it is all about the children.


IF you could actually do this, (the problems and costs are immense, and most
of the technology is far from existing) what is to keep this from creating a
problem as large as the possible threat from global warming.

Remember the dark ages? Famine, wholesale crop failures? All because the
solar cycle did not keep the earth within the ideal temperature range, by a
couple degrees.

Climatic science is far from a perfected science. We still do not know more
than we know.

For example, we could prevent the buildup of a few degrees, and when the
solar cycle swings the other way, everything could be too cold. If there
was some extra heat around, the cool-down might just bring us back to
normal. Lots of variables, when we don't even know what the equation is.
--
Jim in NC


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Old February 26th 07, 03:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Remember the dark ages? Famine, wholesale crop failures? All because the
solar cycle did not keep the earth within the ideal temperature range, by a
couple degrees.


That's the first I'd heard of that particular cause. Got a cite?

Jose
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  #53  
Old February 26th 07, 03:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I hate to burst your bubble, but I was a professional logger for several
years and there is no such thing as a nice Homelite. :-)

If it isn't a Stihl, it isn't a chainsaw. :-)


Actually, I was talking with an experienced chain saw owner/user, as
he and I were selecting the Homelite, and we both came to the
following conclusion, after years of buying home-use yard tools:

1. The names no long mean anything. Most lawn tools are now made by
two or three companies, who sell their stuff to other brands. I've
bought top-of-the-line good-name stuff that has lasted two hours, and
I've bought no-name stuff that has lasted years of hard use.

2. Don't buy cheap.

3. Don't buy under-powered.

The Homelite had the biggest engine, and was actually the most
expensive chain saw Menard's sells. It was easy to start, easy to
run, and made quick work of what I needed to cut -- which was branches
up to 9 inches in diameter.

If I'm lucky, I'll use it MAYBE once per year, probably less. At that
rate, it will last me a lifetime.
--
Jay Honeck
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Old February 26th 07, 03:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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But then you get to "solve" that problem. Of course the
Russians ands Chinese will claim it is a weapon. The impact
statement will be 3 million pages and that will require an
impact statement to justify the wood pulp.

The point is that it is beyond human control and our effect
is miniscule.

Water is the major greenhouse gas and water absorbs CO2.
Carbon is locked in rock made by sea life such as corals and
oysters.

Making concrete releases a lot of that CO2. So does
volcanic activity.

We could all die and the world would still get hotter and
colder in a long cycle. But who would know or care?

Just as long as Al Gore gets his Oscar and Art Bell talks to
abductees.

Me, I want to date Buffy and her sister.


"Morgans" wrote in message
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|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
|
| It should, after all we could place large set of louvers
or
| blinds in an orbit to shade the Earth, or learn to
control
| the Sun. Besides, when has funding depended on rational
| thought, it is all about the children.
|
| IF you could actually do this, (the problems and costs are
immense, and most
| of the technology is far from existing) what is to keep
this from creating a
| problem as large as the possible threat from global
warming.
|
| Remember the dark ages? Famine, wholesale crop failures?
All because the
| solar cycle did not keep the earth within the ideal
temperature range, by a
| couple degrees.
|
| Climatic science is far from a perfected science. We
still do not know more
| than we know.
|
| For example, we could prevent the buildup of a few
degrees, and when the
| solar cycle swings the other way, everything could be too
cold. If there
| was some extra heat around, the cool-down might just bring
us back to
| normal. Lots of variables, when we don't even know what
the equation is.
| --
| Jim in NC
|
|


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Old February 26th 07, 04:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("Dan Luke" wrote)
Brrr!

"...can't for the life of me figure out what you guys see in the
coasts..."

--Jay Honeck in r.a.owning



A classic :-)


Montblack


  #57  
Old February 26th 07, 04:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("Jim Macklin" wrote)
Personally, we should have kept the B2 and B1s flying and taken out Iran's
military too. We may still have to do that.



Yeah, if you insist on finding battlefields to fight on. It's all about the
mosques...

Now what are you going to do?


Montblack


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Old February 26th 07, 06:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jose" wrote

That's the first I'd heard of that particular cause. Got a cite?


I saw it on a Discovery Channel show, a while back.
--
Jim in NC


  #59  
Old February 26th 07, 12:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Jay Honeck wrote:

I hate to burst your bubble, but I was a professional logger for several
years and there is no such thing as a nice Homelite. :-)

If it isn't a Stihl, it isn't a chainsaw. :-)



Actually, I was talking with an experienced chain saw owner/user, as
he and I were selecting the Homelite, and we both came to the
following conclusion, after years of buying home-use yard tools:

1. The names no long mean anything. Most lawn tools are now made by
two or three companies, who sell their stuff to other brands. I've
bought top-of-the-line good-name stuff that has lasted two hours, and
I've bought no-name stuff that has lasted years of hard use.

2. Don't buy cheap.

3. Don't buy under-powered.

The Homelite had the biggest engine, and was actually the most
expensive chain saw Menard's sells. It was easy to start, easy to
run, and made quick work of what I needed to cut -- which was branches
up to 9 inches in diameter.

If I'm lucky, I'll use it MAYBE once per year, probably less. At that
rate, it will last me a lifetime.


This isn't true with chain saws. The biggest problem is that after a
couple of years, especially if not used frequently, the cheap saws tend
to get very hard to start. My Stihl often sits a year between uses as I
tend to cut and split 7-10 cord each year all in one month or so, yet it
still fires up in 3-5 pulls.

We tried every brand known to man when I was logging as the owner always
wanted to save a buck. McCulloch was the worst with Homelite close
behind along with Poulan, John Deere and several others (I think many of
the cheap saws are just rebranded as with most appliances).

Only three brands really held up at all in the woods: Stihl, Jonsereds
and Husqvarna. These are all solid saws, but the Sthihl's held up the
best. The only way we ever lost a Stihl was to drop a tree on it or run
over it with a log skidder. We NEVER wore out a Stihl engine and we had
some saws that probably had 8,000 hours on them (4-6 years of 8-5
operation 5 days a week). That is just amazing for a two-stroke engine.

I've always wondered by the aviation two-strokes were so unreliable as
Stihl certainly proved to me that two-strokes could be very reliable and
very durable.


Matt
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Old February 26th 07, 02:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Chris" wrote in message
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BTW, I am no expert on this,


you are so right there - you are no expert, better leave it to those who
have spent a lifetime studying the matter.


That doesn't necessarily entail that they are HONEST, especially with
$$$Billions in grants, etc., for coming to the right, preordained
conclusions.

 




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