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Old March 16th 07, 05:57 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Joe Gertler
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Dear Sir; I paid a handsome sum for the copyrights (and the
originals) of these Charles Hubbel paintings. These are "registered'
copyrights with all the legal papers, signed by Hubbell's son. I have
these images posted on my website with the notice that they are not
to be copied or posted elsewhere without written permission. My
website has the "right click to copy" feature blocked. This is for
ALL of the Charles Hubbell art on my website, including watercolors,
pen & ink, Oil paintings, pencil sketches and caseins, etc. O do NOT
like to see you posting them for copying, so they wilL soon appear on
Ebay, posted as "prints for sale" by someone who has NOT paid for
this right. as I have..Please respond by taking sown these images.
They jeopadize a significant investment I have in them.
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Old March 16th 07, 10:26 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Paul Stewart
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It's his M.O. - he post other peoples material with no regard for copyrights
or laws . . .

Sue him or screw him!

Hello, Joe!
You wrote on Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:57:01 GMT:

JG Dear Sir; I paid a handsome sum for the copyrights (and the
JG originals) of these Charles Hubbel paintings. These are "registered'
JG copyrights with all the legal papers, signed by Hubbell's son. I
JG have
JG these images posted on my website with the notice that they are not
JG to be copied or posted elsewhere without written permission. My
JG website has the "right click to copy" feature blocked. This is for
JG ALL of the Charles Hubbell art on my website, including watercolors,
JG pen & ink, Oil paintings, pencil sketches and caseins, etc. O do NOT
JG like to see you posting them for copying, so they wilL soon appear
JG on
JG Ebay, posted as "prints for sale" by someone who has NOT paid for
JG this right. as I have..Please respond by taking sown these images.
JG They jeopadize a significant investment I have in them.


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Old March 17th 07, 01:12 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Ray O'Hara
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"Paul Stewart" wrote in message
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It's his M.O. - he post other peoples material with no regard for

copyrights
or laws . . .

Sue him or screw him!


or even giving credit where its due. he likes to pretend they come from an
extensive collection in his posession rather than from hours of net
surfing.


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Old March 17th 07, 02:25 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Don Pyeatt
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"Ray O'Hara" wrote in message
...

"Paul Stewart" wrote in message
...
It's his M.O. - he post other peoples material with no regard for

copyrights
or laws . . .

Sue him or screw him!


or even giving credit where its due. he likes to pretend they come from an
extensive collection in his posession rather than from hours of net
surfing.



I have posted many unique, never-seen photos here before, always diligent to
credit the material to its owner only to find them later in a "collection"
with all credit info conveniently omitted. I have gobs of similar items
that will likely never be seen outside of my computer screen for this very
reason.

gdp


Attachment: Chance Vought decal, circa 1945 via Ed Calvert collection.




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Old March 17th 07, 05:19 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Joe Gertler
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"Paul Stewart" wrote in
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It's his M.O. - he post other peoples material with no regard for
copyrights or laws . . .


Dear Don, Ray, & Paul;
Thank you for the supporting comments. I was hoping that my defensive post
would not be taken as an over-reaction.

I also have thousands of private aviation photos that I DO scan and share
and send high-res images of (free of course) to many researchers and buffs,
and modelers, on various aviation forums. I posted a lot of my aviation art
collection on my website so others could enjoy viewing it. But that was
some four years ago... THESE days(after being advised by those with more
Internet experience) I tend to overlay all the images with a text
indicating copyrighted material. 99.9% of Internet surfers respect that and
are content to enjoy and correspond about it. But I've learned there are a
few pitfalls to posting images, on occassion. I rarely mind copying for
personal use, but when you see copies (of material that cost you a pretty
penny) printed out on some copier, and sold on EBAY, (without any credit or
permission) it can be upsetting. And when you want to use one of your
images in a magazine article, and the editor says it is now a common image
seen all over the Internet, so they don't want to use it, That can be a
little upsetting, also.

Haven't used the newsgroups in a while. I've never seen these Exclamation
point/red icons before, in the threads. Do you put them in yourSELVES, or
are they put in by some group Moderator?
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Old March 17th 07, 07:11 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Ray O'Hara
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"Joe Gertler" wrote in message
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"Paul Stewart" wrote in
Haven't used the newsgroups in a while. I've never seen these Exclamation
point/red icons before, in the threads. Do you put them in yourSELVES, or
are they put in by some group Moderator?



this is a non-moderated group.


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Old March 19th 07, 05:34 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Joe Gertler
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"Ray O'Hara" wrote in
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"Paul Stewart" wrote in message
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It's his M.O. - he post other peoples material with no regard for

copyrights
or laws . . .

Sue him or screw him!


Can anyone help me to find Mitchell Holman's legal address? Since the
images have not been deleted, I would like to have my attorney handle the
matter from here. Usually copying an image or two is not worth pursuing.
But Holman's unauthorized use of at least 44 items,represents potential
damage to a six-figure investment, and to those registered-copyrights of
considerable value.
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Old March 19th 07, 05:48 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Steve Vernon
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you may not know this, but you can't delete anything from a newsgroup.

Steve

"Joe Gertler" wrote in message
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"Ray O'Hara" wrote in
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"Paul Stewart" wrote in message
...
It's his M.O. - he post other peoples material with no regard for

copyrights
or laws . . .

Sue him or screw him!


Can anyone help me to find Mitchell Holman's legal address? Since the
images have not been deleted, I would like to have my attorney handle the
matter from here. Usually copying an image or two is not worth pursuing.
But Holman's unauthorized use of at least 44 items,represents potential
damage to a six-figure investment, and to those registered-copyrights of
considerable value.





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Old March 19th 07, 06:52 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Enzo Matrix
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Joe Gertler wrote:
"Ray O'Hara" wrote in
:


"Paul Stewart" wrote in message
...
It's his M.O. - he post other peoples material with no regard for
copyrights or laws . . .

Sue him or screw him!


Can anyone help me to find Mitchell Holman's legal address? Since the
images have not been deleted, I would like to have my attorney handle
the matter from here.


The problem is that this is usenet, not a website. If it were a website, Mr
Holman could actually delete the images as you asked. On usenet that isn't
actually possible. Mr Holman could issue a cancel message for each of the
posts, but that won't guarantee that the posts will actually get wiped from
usenet servers. Some servers simply don't accept cancels. With usenet, once
a post is out there, it is effectively out there for ever.

I can understand how you would be annoyed about unauthorised use of your
images, however I would suggest that the damage to your business is probably
minimal. The images as posted here were simply not of a high enough
resolution or quality to be printed out and sold.

--
Enzo

I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.



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Old March 19th 07, 09:06 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Luke[_2_]
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"Joe Gertler" wrote in message
. 120...

Can anyone help me to find Mitchell Holman's legal address?



Here is your shopping list:

1) Get a life.
2) Get an education on how Usenet actually works.
3) Get your own damn private investigator. You want us to help you
try to burn a regular here? LOL
4) Get a lawyer to explain the actuall prosecutability of your
complaint.
5) Get a grip. These puny 200dpi scans don't represent a real threat
to the profitability of your "six figure invetment".
6) Get out your checkbook... Pursuing this complaint will only ensure
you loose more than you collect.


Luke


 




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