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Old March 27th 07, 06:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.disasters.aviation
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George writes:

on rails. With very large buffers.


Docklands Light Railway sounds like it has rails and buffers, too.

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Old March 27th 07, 06:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.disasters.aviation
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George writes:

Why, if you're correct, do they have train operators present to make
announcements, close doors, and operate the train in case of
unforeseen difficulties
???


A human being is always handy for unexpected situations, and since BART was
one of the first fully automated systems, it had a lot of problems initially.
There may be union requirements for people, too.

The fact that a human operator is aboard a train doesn't mean that the train
can't operate itself in normal service, just as the presence of pilots aboard
an airliner doesn't mean that the airliner cannot fly itself most of the time.

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Old March 27th 07, 06:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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George writes:

Why, if you're correct, do they have train operators present to make
announcements, close doors, and operate the train in case of
unforeseen difficulties
???


A human being is always handy for unexpected situations, and since
BART was one of the first fully automated systems, it had a lot of
problems initially. There may be union requirements for people, too.

The fact that a human operator is aboard a train doesn't mean that the
train can't operate itself in normal service, just as the presence of
pilots aboard an airliner doesn't mean that the airliner cannot fly
itself most of the time.


It can't, fjuccckkkwit.


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Old March 27th 07, 06:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Eeyore writes:

Good Lord you're amazingly stupid !


Remember that USENET is archived. Someday, when airliners really are
piloted automatically, you can look back on what you've said above and
try to laugh.


I'm laughing at the pair of you right now.



Bertie

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Old March 27th 07, 06:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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John Mazor writes:

You didn't have that geographic qualifier when you made your
sweeping statement. It's true that a few countries are
using ab initio training to breed their own pilots, but
that's a tiny minority.


Minority or not, it proves that it can be done.


No, it doesn't



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Old March 27th 07, 06:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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John Mazor writes:

You didn't have that geographic qualifier when you made your
sweeping statement. It's true that a few countries are
using ab initio training to breed their own pilots, but
that's a tiny minority.


Minority or not, it proves that it can be done.

Starting and finishing in a jet airliner is a pretty good proof of
concept for primary training in a high-performance aircraft.


They don't do primary training in a jet airliner, you moron.

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Old March 27th 07, 06:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Eeyore wrote in
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Mxsmanic wrote:

John Mazor writes:

You didn't have that geographic qualifier when you made your
sweeping statement. It's true that a few countries are
using ab initio training to breed their own pilots, but
that's a tiny minority.


Minority or not, it proves that it can be done.

Starting and finishing in a jet airliner is a pretty good proof of
concept for primary training in a high-performance aircraft.


Uh ? Ab-initio training involves getting a PPL first anyway.

Do you think they put beginners in heavy twins to begin with ?


Fukk you planespotter.



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Old March 27th 07, 06:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Eeyore writes:

Uh ? Ab-initio training involves getting a PPL first anyway.


Why can't you get that flying only large airliners from the beginning?


Wow, dum and dummer get dummer and dummer.




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Old March 27th 07, 06:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Dave Doe writes:

Can you name any airlines anywhere on the planet that train their
pilots that way?


Name them? No. But I know that this is the current trend.


No, it isn't fjukkwit.



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Old March 27th 07, 07:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Eeyore writes:

PPLs don't apply to such aircraft.


Oh ... so you don't need a PPL to fly a 747?

Is that what you think ?


When it comes to airliners, I am _certain_ of it.


I'm sure you are, it's what makes you "special"



Bertie
 




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